Cham is absolutely correct. The google-cloud-pubsub higher-level library didn't exist when the Beam connector were written, and nobody has gotten around to rewriting that connector.
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 11:29 PM Chamikara Jayalath <chamik...@google.com> wrote: > Thanks Jeff for the interest in this. > > I think most of the existing GCP IO connectors use Google API client > libraries [1] due to historical reasons (these were the libraries that were > available when these connectors were originally built). > We should upgrade to latest Google Cloud client libraries [2] at some > point but I don't have an exact ETA for this. > > Thanks, > Cham > > [1] https://developers.google.com/api-client-library/ > [2] https://cloud.google.com/apis/docs/cloud-client-libraries > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM Jeff Klukas <jklu...@mozilla.com> wrote: > >> My apologies. I got the terminology entirely wrong. >> >> As you say, PubsubIO and other Beam components _do_ use the official >> Google API client library (google-api-client). They do not, however, use >> the higher-level Google Cloud libraries such as google-cloud-pubsub which >> provide abstractions on top of the API client library. >> >> I am wondering whether there are technical reasons not to use the >> higher-level service-specific libraries, or whether this is simply >> historical. >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:38 PM Anton Kedin <ke...@google.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't have enough context to answer all of the questions, but looking >>> at PubsubIO it seems to use the official libraries, e.g. see Pubsub doc >>> [1] vs Pubsub IO GRPC client [2]. Correct me if I misunderstood >>> your question. >>> >>> [1] >>> https://cloud.google.com/pubsub/docs/publisher#pubsub-publish-message-java >>> [2] >>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/2e759fecf63d62d110f29265f9438128e3bdc8ab/sdks/java/io/google-cloud-platform/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/gcp/pubsub/PubsubGrpcClient.java#L189 >>> >>> Pubsub IO JSON client seems to use a slightly different approach but >>> still relies on somewhat official path, e.g. Pubsub doc [3] (javadoc[4]) vs >>> Pubsub IO JSON client [5]. >>> >>> [3] https://developers.google.com/api-client-library/java/apis/pubsub/v1 >>> [4] >>> https://developers.google.com/resources/api-libraries/documentation/pubsub/v1/java/latest/com/google/api/services/pubsub/Pubsub.html >>> [5] >>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/2e759fecf63d62d110f29265f9438128e3bdc8ab/sdks/java/io/google-cloud-platform/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/gcp/pubsub/PubsubJsonClient.java#L130 >>> >>> The latter seems to be the older library, so I would assume it's for >>> legacy reasons. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Anton >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:03 AM Jeff Klukas <jklu...@mozilla.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm building a high-volume Beam pipeline using PubsubIO and running >>>> into some concerns over performance and delivery semantics, prompting me to >>>> want to better understand the implementation. Reading through the library, >>>> PubsubIO appears to be a completely separate implementation of Pubsub >>>> client behavior from Google's own Java client. As a developer trying to >>>> read and understand the implementation, this is a significant hurdle, since >>>> any previous knowledge of the Google library is not applicable and is >>>> potentially at odds with what's in PubsubIO. >>>> >>>> Why doesn't beam use the Google clients for PubsubIO, BigQueryIO, etc.? >>>> Is it for historical reasons? Is there difficulty in packaging and >>>> integration of the Google clients? Or are the needs for Beam just >>>> substantially different from what the Google libraries provide? >>>> >>>