Hey Alexey,

I see that a lot (well, I tried 2) proposals require access approval.
Should that be the case?

 _/
_/ Alex Van Boxel


On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:51 PM Alexey Romanenko <aromanenko....@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I’m sorry but I forgot to mention that the whole list could be found here:
> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/design-documents/
>
>
> On 18 Jan 2019, at 16:49, Alexey Romanenko <aromanenko....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> FYI: I updated the list of design documents to make it up-to-date.
> PR: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/7560
> Please, feel free to add new ones if I missed something.
>
> Also, I’d like to remind that it would be very helpful to add design
> document to this page in the same time as it was created and finalised
> after all discussions.
> It should help us to keep this list consistent and always up-to-date.
> Thank you in advance!
>
> On 11 Jul 2018, at 17:03, Alexey Romanenko <aromanenko....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for this link, Etienne.
> I agree that it doesn’t fit well for design documents page. So, I think it
> makes sense to add either on wiki or as a part of Nexmark documentation on
> web site: https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java/nexmark/.
>
>
> On 11 Jul 2018, at 11:16, Etienne Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> Alexey,
>
> One doc that can be interesting that I forgot to point out is
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VgnGiVu8vSfm7Et-xAtQYv0PlEpqeyfmhpQUNPmWRJs/edit?usp=sharing
> It is the doc I wrote when I submitted Nexmark PR to ease the reading of
> the code.
> It is not a design doc, I don't know if it belongs to the website page or
> to the wiki for beam devs.
>
> Etienne
>
>
> Le mercredi 06 juin 2018 à 17:48 +0200, Alexey Romanenko a écrit :
>
> FYI: Finally, it was merged and you can find this page here:
> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/design-documents/
>
> Thank you everybody who helped me to compile this list!
> I’ll try to do my best to update this with new coming docs. In the same
> time, please, feel free to add your new docs (or notify me if I missed
> this) once they are finished and ready to be published.
>
> WBR,
> Alexey
>
> On 31 May 2018, at 18:52, Eugene Kirpichov <kirpic...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you!
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:30 AM Alexey Romanenko <aromanenko....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thank you everybody for provided links. I collected all of them (please,
> correct me if I missed something), categorized and created a dedicated page
> for Beam website.
>
> Here is a PR for that (please, review):
> https://github.com/apache/beam-site/pull/456
>
> WBR,
> Alexey
>
> On 30 May 2018, at 13:17, Łukasz Gajowy <lukasz.gaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just wanted to add those two (sorry for being kinda late with this):
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dA-5s6OHiP_cz-NRAbwapoKF5MEC1wKps4A5tFbIPKE/edit?usp=sharing
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cb7XVmqe__nA_WCrriAifL-3WCzbZzV4Am5W_SkQLeA/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks,
> Łukasz
>
> 2018-05-29 22:42 GMT+02:00 Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com>:
>
> Providing ownership to the PMC account allows others to take over
> ownership of the document once a contributor stops being active. This
> allows docs to be updated (even if just to point to a newer doc).
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:20 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com> wrote:
>
> My position on ownership is design docs are really documents "of the
> moment" and authored by a particular individual or group. Experience shows
> that even if you try, keeping it fresh is not likely to happen. Anything
> that needs freshness (like end-user docs) should be in a different medium. I
> would just date the gdoc so readers know how to interpret it (the automated
> "last edit" date is not sufficient for understanding how stale something
> is).
>
> So it seems like it makes little difference if the project or PMC has
> ownership or even write access. Of course I have no objections if someone
> wants to transfer ownership, but is there a reason to encourage it?
>
> Kenn
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:11 PM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>
> I transferred ownership of the docs that I owned to the
> apacheb...@gmail.com PMC account and put the ones that I owned into the
> drive folder.
>
> Would it be a good idea for others to follow suit?
>
> Instructions on how to transfer ownership are here:
> http://support.it.mtu.edu/Accounts/E-Mail/75946047/How-do-I-transfer-ownership-of-a-Google-Doc.htm
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:23 AM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>
> I created a PR for the beam-site to link to the design docs and template
> from the contribution guide:
> https://github.com/apache/beam-site/pull/454
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:23 AM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Here are some more links related to portability efforts:
>
> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api
> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api-processing-a-bundle
> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api-send-and-receive-data
> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-state-api-and-bundle-processing
> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api-progress-reporting
> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api-container-contract
> https://s.apache.org/beam-breaking-fusion
> https://s.apache.org/beam-runner-api-combine-model
> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api-metrics
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 2:11 PM Scott Wegner <sweg...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing these. I also put together a design doc template based
> on common styling / sections I saw in the docs listed above. Others are
> free to use it as they'd like.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kVePqjt2daZd0bQHGUwghlcLbhvrny7VpflAzk9sjUg/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:23 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com> wrote:
>
> OK, I will also put a list here of those I know off the top of my head.
> Some are redundant with Etienne's but short links that I can think of:
>
> https://s.apache.org/a-new-dofn
> https://s.apache.org/beam-triggers
> https://s.apache.org/beam-sink-triggers
> https://s.apache.org/beam-runner-composites
> https://s.apache.org/beam-lateness
> https://s.apache.org/beam-runner-api
> https://s.apache.org/beam-state
> https://s.apache.org/beam-side-inputs-1-pager
>
> Kenn
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:08 AM Etienne Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> Great that you take this action Alexey !
> Here are the links I have, there is duplicates with the ones you already
> received and maybe old docs as well:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MtBZYV7NAcfbwyy9Op8STeFNBxtljxgy69FkHMvhTMA/edit
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wR56Jef3XIPwj4DFzQKznuGPM3JDfRDVkxzeDlbdVSQ/edit
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fl_LM918j7ZxAmCSkm43GBjV8knsZAIA1tRhvJ4DneM/edit#heading=h.1lcfuwfvxg2
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zcF4ZGtq8pxzLZxgD_JMWAouSszIf9LnFANWHKBsZlg/edit
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AQmx-T9XjSi1PNoEp5_L-lT0j7BkgTbmQnc6uFEMI4c/edit#heading=h.dtl8cwoybr2y
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u-4o_0uj8uKa2SVNPBNxIKfvcJ4t66ecCoU1M2yVoDA/edit#heading=h.c1deqkr0bp31
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17H2sBEtnoTSxjzlrz7rmKtX5E3F0mW1NpFQzWzSYOpY/edit#heading=h.1lcfuwfvxg2
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tnG2DPHZYbsomvihIpXruUmQ12pHGK0QIvXS1FOTgRc/edit#heading=h.puuotbien1gf
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KEtUPE5d6oCZFvFlR7PtSDvHpx5kDj2dTlIxF7UXa5w/edit#heading=h.p6lvszfbmyj6
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IGduUqmhWDi_69l9nG8kw73HZ5WI5wOps9Tshl5wpQA/edit#heading=h.gh88g5y0rekp
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NehB__CxJTmjxkt7hDYIJWNDLJyEoE0b-AUJvInHPCI/edit#heading=h.gh88g5y0rekp
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BOozW0bzBuz4oHJEuZNDOHdzaV5Y56ix58Ozrqm2jFg/edit#heading=h.gh88g5y0rekp
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XYzb1Fnt2sam7u2MsGFaZp-2qSIGxUn66VLer-bcXAk/edit#heading=h.p6lvszfbmyj6
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1voyUIQ2DrWkoY-BsJwM8YvF4gGKB76CDG8BYL8XBc7A/edit#heading=h.vv2fbulkp7t
>
> Etienne
>
>
>
> Le jeudi 24 mai 2018 à 14:53 +0200, Alexey Romanenko a écrit :
>
> Thank you everybody for positive feedback and sending me links to design
> docs. I’m going to complete the full list and create PR for review.
>
> *Griselda*
> Perhaps, it was a bit of misunderstanding here, let me explain what I
> assume under creating of such page.
>
> Actually, for now I’m going to collect all known design docs under one
> umbrella (the page on Beam web site) to make it easy to discover. For
> example, as a new contributor, I’d like to know more details what was
> initial design of new FileIO, SDF, Metrics, etc.
>
> I'm *not* going to copy the content of this docs to one page or even web
> site, let’s keep this as it is, no changes here for the moment. I think,
> moving to something else than Google docs is a tough question and requires
> another discussion.
>
> So, in this case, this task seems not so hard since we don’t add such docs
> too often - I'll just have to update this index page on web site. In
> addition, the authors will be always welcomed to update this page by
> themselves. In my turn, I’ll try to keep an eye on this to keep it synced.
> And of course, any help will be welcomed too =)
>
> WBR,
> Alexey
>
> On 24 May 2018, at 00:01, Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> @Alexey, I think this is a great idea, I'd like to understand more of the
> motivation behind having all the designs doc under a single page. In my
> opinion it could become a challenge to maintain a page, so knowing what you
> want to accomplish could help us think of alternative solutions?
>
> On Wed, 23 May 2018 at 14:08, Daniel Oliveira <danolive...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1 to web site page (not Google Doc).
>
> Definitely agree that a common entry point would be excellent. I don't
> like the idea of the Google Doc so much because it's not very good for
> having changes reviewed and keeping track of who added what, unlike Github.
> Adding an entry to the list in the website would require reviews and leave
> behind a commit history, which I think is important for an
> authoritative source like this.
>
> PS: I also have a doc I proposed that I didn't see in the lists:
> https://s.apache.org/beam-runner-api-combine-model
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:52 PM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>
> +1, Thanks for picking this up Alexey
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:41 AM Huygaa Batsaikhan <bat...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1. That is great, Alexey. Robin and I are working on documenting some
> missing pieces of Java SDK. We will let you know when we create polished
> documents.
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:28 AM Ismaël Mejía <ieme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 and thanks for volunteering for this Alexey.
> We really need to make this more accesible.
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:00 PM Alexey Romanenko <aromanenko....@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Joseph, Eugene - thank you very much for the links!
>
> > All, regarding one common entry point for all design documents. Could we
> just have a dedicated page on Beam web site with a list of links to every
> proposed document? Every entry (optionally) might contain, in addition,
> short abstract and list of author(s). In this case, it would be easily
> searchable and available for those who are interested in this.
>
> > In the same time, using a Google doc for writing/discussing the documents
> seems more than reasonable since it’s quite native and easy to use. I only
> propose to have a common entry point to fall of them.
>
> > If this idea looks feasible, I’d propose myself to collect the links to
> already created documents, create such page and update this list in the
> future.
>
> > WBR,
> > Alexey
>
> > On 22 May 2018, at 21:34, Eugene Kirpichov <kirpic...@google.com> wrote:
>
> > Making it easier to manage indeed would be good. Could someone from PMC
> please add the following documents of mine to it?
>
> > SDF related documents:
> > http://s.apache.org/splittable-do-fn
> > http://s.apache.org/sdf-via-source
> > http://s.apache.org/textio-sdf
> > http://s.apache.org/beam-watch-transform
> > http://s.apache.org/beam-breaking-fusion
>
> > Non SDF related:
> > http://s.apache.org/context-fn
> > http://s.apache.org/fileio-write
>
> > A suggestion: maybe we can establish a convention to send design document
> proposals to dev+desi...@beam.apache.org? Does the Apache mailing list
> management software support this kind of stuff? Then they'd be quite easy
> to find and filter.
>
> > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:57 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com> wrote:
>
> >> It is owned by the Beam PMC collectively. Any PMC member can add things
> to it. Ideas for making it easy to manage are welcome.
>
> >> Probably easier to have a markdown file somewhere with a list of docs so
> we can issue and review PRs. Not sure the web site is the right place for
> it - we have a history of porting docs to markdown but really that is high
> overhead and users/community probably don't gain from it so much. Some have
> suggested a wiki.
>
> >> Kenn
>
> >> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:22 AM Scott Wegner <sweg...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>> Thanks for the links. Any details on that Google drive folder? Who
> maintains it? Is it possible for any contributor to add their design doc?
>
> >>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 8:15 AM Joseph PENG <josephtengp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>>> Alexey,
>
> >>>> I do not know where you can find all design docs, but I know a blog
> that has collected some of the major design docs. Hope it helps.
>
> >>>> https://wtanaka.com/beam/design-doc
>
> >>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-IhJZh9Ab52OFBVZHpsNjc4eXc
>
> >>>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 9:28 AM Alexey Romanenko <
> aromanenko....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Hi all,
>
> >>>>> Is it possible to obtain somewhere a list of all proposals /
> prototype documents that have been published as a technical / design
> documents for new features? I have links to only some of them (found in
> mail list discussions by chance) but I’m not aware of others.
>
> >>>>> If yes, could someone share it or point me out where it is located in
> case if I missed this?
>
> >>>>> If not, don’t you think it would make sense to have such index of
> these documents? I believe it can be useful for Beam contributors since
> these proposals contain information which is absent or not so detailed on
> Beam web site documentation.
>
> >>>>> WBR,
> >>>>> Alexey
>
>
>
>
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