First step probably is to make mandatory to add the document to the design documents page before sending it to the mailing list for discussion.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 6:13 PM Maximilian Michels <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is awesome. Thank you for creating this page Alexey! I found some > documents > which I missed in the past. > > I wonder if we could make it easier to maintain the page? If design docs were > in > the Wiki, it would be trivial to maintain such a list. Obviously the Google > Docs > are great for commenting/collaboration, but they are hard to discover. > > On 25.01.19 18:37, Alexey Romanenko wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > > > Indeed, some of them are not shared with everyone. I asked on Slack channel > > to > > fix this. > > Thank you for the list! > > > > > >> On 18 Jan 2019, at 19:57, Alex Van Boxel <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> typically me... I just click on 2 of the 3 that were not shared. I went > >> over > >> all of the proposals to see where I needed to get access, here is the list: > >> > >> > >> SQL / Schema > >> > >> * Pubsub to Beam SQL [doc > >> > >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wIXTxh-nQ3u694XbF0iEZX_7-b3yi4ad0ML2pcAxYfE>] > >> * Calcite/Beam SQL Windowing [doc > >> > >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RmyV9e1Qab-axsLI1WWpw5oGAJDv0X7y9OSnPnrZWJk>] > >> * Reject Unsupported Windowing Strategies in JOIN [doc > >> > >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V-ZgKVTwHdNSGlQWncWIzcf_Rw2oLKZFSkU43scLff4>] > >> > >> the ones that I had access to, from the past I don't know anymore of > >> course. > >> > >> > >> > >> _/ > >> _/ Alex Van Boxel > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 6:13 PM Alexey Romanenko <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Alex, > >> > >> Hmm, afaik, this is mostly google docs file which shared with anyone > >> who > >> knows the link. > >> Could you send here the names of proposals that required an access > >> approval? > >> Thanks. > >> > >>> On 18 Jan 2019, at 16:58, Alex Van Boxel <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey Alexey, > >>> > >>> I see that a lot (well, I tried 2) proposals require access approval. > >>> Should that be the case? > >>> > >>> _/ > >>> _/ Alex Van Boxel > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:51 PM Alexey Romanenko > >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I’m sorry but I forgot to mention that the whole list could be > >>> found > >>> here: > >>> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/design-documents/ > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 18 Jan 2019, at 16:49, Alexey Romanenko > >>>> <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> FYI: I updated the list of design documents to make it > >>>> up-to-date. > >>>> PR: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/7560 > >>>> Please, feel free to add new ones if I missed something. > >>>> > >>>> Also, I’d like to remind that it would be very helpful to add > >>>> design > >>>> document to this page in the same time as it was created and > >>>> finalised after all discussions. > >>>> It should help us to keep this list consistent and always > >>>> up-to-date. > >>>> Thank you in advance! > >>>> > >>>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 17:03, Alexey Romanenko > >>>> <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you for this link, Etienne. > >>>>> I agree that it doesn’t fit well for design documents page. So, > >>>>> I > >>>>> think it makes sense to add either on wiki or as a part of > >>>>> Nexmark > >>>>> documentation on web site: > >>>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java/nexmark/. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 11:16, Etienne Chauchot <[email protected] > >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Alexey, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> One doc that can be interesting that I forgot to point out is > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VgnGiVu8vSfm7Et-xAtQYv0PlEpqeyfmhpQUNPmWRJs/edit?usp=sharing > >>>>>> It is the doc I wrote when I submitted Nexmark PR to ease the > >>>>>> reading of the code. > >>>>>> It is not a design doc, I don't know if it belongs to the > >>>>>> website > >>>>>> page or to the wiki for beam devs. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Etienne > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Le mercredi 06 juin 2018 à 17:48 +0200, Alexey Romanenko a > >>>>>> écrit : > >>>>>>> FYI: Finally, it was merged and you can find this page here: > >>>>>>> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/design-documents/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thank you everybody who helped me to compile this list! > >>>>>>> I’ll try to do my best to update this with new coming docs. In > >>>>>>> the same time, please, feel free to add your new docs (or > >>>>>>> notify > >>>>>>> me if I missed this) once they are finished and ready to be > >>>>>>> published. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> WBR, > >>>>>>> Alexey > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 31 May 2018, at 18:52, Eugene Kirpichov > >>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:30 AM Alexey Romanenko > >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Thank you everybody for provided links. I collected all of > >>>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>>> (please, correct me if I missed something), categorized and > >>>>>>>>> created a dedicated page for Beam website. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Here is a PR for that (please, review): > >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam-site/pull/456 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> WBR, > >>>>>>>>> Alexey > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 30 May 2018, at 13:17, Łukasz Gajowy > >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I just wanted to add those two (sorry for being kinda late > >>>>>>>>>> with this): > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dA-5s6OHiP_cz-NRAbwapoKF5MEC1wKps4A5tFbIPKE/edit?usp=sharing > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cb7XVmqe__nA_WCrriAifL-3WCzbZzV4Am5W_SkQLeA/edit?usp=sharing > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>> Łukasz > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-05-29 22:42 GMT+02:00 Lukasz Cwik <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: > >>>>>>>>>>> Providing ownership to the PMC account allows others to > >>>>>>>>>>> take > >>>>>>>>>>> over ownership of the document once a contributor stops > >>>>>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>>>>> active. This allows docs to be updated (even if just to > >>>>>>>>>>> point > >>>>>>>>>>> to a newer doc). > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:20 PM Kenneth Knowles > >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> My position on ownership is design docs are really > >>>>>>>>>>>> documents > >>>>>>>>>>>> "of the moment" and authored by a particular individual > >>>>>>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>>>> group. Experience shows that even if you try, keeping it > >>>>>>>>>>>> fresh is not likely to happen. Anything that needs > >>>>>>>>>>>> freshness > >>>>>>>>>>>> (like end-user docs) should be in a different medium. I > >>>>>>>>>>>> would just date the gdoc so readers know how to > >>>>>>>>>>>> interpret it > >>>>>>>>>>>> (the automated "last edit" date is not sufficient for > >>>>>>>>>>>> understanding how stale something is). > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> So it seems like it makes little difference if the > >>>>>>>>>>>> project > >>>>>>>>>>>> or PMC has ownership or even write access. Of course I > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>> no objections if someone wants to transfer ownership, > >>>>>>>>>>>> but is > >>>>>>>>>>>> there a reason to encourage it? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Kenn > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:11 PM Lukasz Cwik > >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I transferred ownership of the docs that I owned to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> PMC > >>>>>>>>>>>>> account and put the ones that I owned into the drive > >>>>>>>>>>>>> folder. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would it be a good idea for others to follow suit? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions on how to transfer ownership are here: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://support.it.mtu.edu/Accounts/E-Mail/75946047/How-do-I-transfer-ownership-of-a-Google-Doc.htm > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:23 AM Lukasz Cwik > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created a PR for the beam-site to link to the design > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> docs and template from the contribution guide: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam-site/pull/454 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:23 AM Lukasz Cwik > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are some more links related to portability > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efforts: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api-processing-a-bundle > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api-send-and-receive-data > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-state-api-and-bundle-processing > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api-progress-reporting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api-container-contract > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-breaking-fusion > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-runner-api-combine-model > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-fn-api-metrics > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 2:11 PM Scott Wegner > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing these. I also put together a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> design > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doc template based on common styling / sections I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saw in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the docs listed above. Others are free to use it as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they'd like. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kVePqjt2daZd0bQHGUwghlcLbhvrny7VpflAzk9sjUg/edit?usp=sharing > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:23 AM Kenneth Knowles > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I will also put a list here of those I know off > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top of my head. Some are redundant with Etienne's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short links that I can think of: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/a-new-dofn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-triggers > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-sink-triggers > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-runner-composites > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-lateness > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-runner-api > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-state > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-side-inputs-1-pager > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kenn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:08 AM Etienne Chauchot > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great that you take this action Alexey ! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are the links I have, there is duplicates with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ones you already received and maybe old docs > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MtBZYV7NAcfbwyy9Op8STeFNBxtljxgy69FkHMvhTMA/edit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wR56Jef3XIPwj4DFzQKznuGPM3JDfRDVkxzeDlbdVSQ/edit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fl_LM918j7ZxAmCSkm43GBjV8knsZAIA1tRhvJ4DneM/edit#heading=h.1lcfuwfvxg2 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zcF4ZGtq8pxzLZxgD_JMWAouSszIf9LnFANWHKBsZlg/edit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AQmx-T9XjSi1PNoEp5_L-lT0j7BkgTbmQnc6uFEMI4c/edit#heading=h.dtl8cwoybr2y > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u-4o_0uj8uKa2SVNPBNxIKfvcJ4t66ecCoU1M2yVoDA/edit#heading=h.c1deqkr0bp31 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17H2sBEtnoTSxjzlrz7rmKtX5E3F0mW1NpFQzWzSYOpY/edit#heading=h.1lcfuwfvxg2 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tnG2DPHZYbsomvihIpXruUmQ12pHGK0QIvXS1FOTgRc/edit#heading=h.puuotbien1gf > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KEtUPE5d6oCZFvFlR7PtSDvHpx5kDj2dTlIxF7UXa5w/edit#heading=h.p6lvszfbmyj6 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IGduUqmhWDi_69l9nG8kw73HZ5WI5wOps9Tshl5wpQA/edit#heading=h.gh88g5y0rekp > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NehB__CxJTmjxkt7hDYIJWNDLJyEoE0b-AUJvInHPCI/edit#heading=h.gh88g5y0rekp > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BOozW0bzBuz4oHJEuZNDOHdzaV5Y56ix58Ozrqm2jFg/edit#heading=h.gh88g5y0rekp > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XYzb1Fnt2sam7u2MsGFaZp-2qSIGxUn66VLer-bcXAk/edit#heading=h.p6lvszfbmyj6 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1voyUIQ2DrWkoY-BsJwM8YvF4gGKB76CDG8BYL8XBc7A/edit#heading=h.vv2fbulkp7t > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le jeudi 24 mai 2018 à 14:53 +0200, Alexey > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romanenko a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you everybody for positive feedback and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sending > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me links to design docs. I’m going to complete the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full list and create PR for review. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Griselda* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps, it was a bit of misunderstanding here, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me explain what I assume under creating of such > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, for now I’m going to collect all known > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> design docs under one umbrella (the page on Beam > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site) to make it easy to discover. For example, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new contributor, I’d like to know more details > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was initial design of new FileIO, SDF, Metrics, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm _not_ going to copy the content of this docs > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one page or even web site, let’s keep this as it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no changes here for the moment. I think, moving to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something else than Google docs is a tough > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and requires another discussion. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, in this case, this task seems not so hard > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don’t add such docs too often - I'll just have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update this index page on web site. In addition, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authors will be always welcomed to update this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by themselves. In my turn, I’ll try to keep an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eye on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this to keep it synced. And of course, any help > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be welcomed too =) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexey > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 May 2018, at 00:01, Griselda Cuevas > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Alexey, I think this is a great idea, I'd like > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand more of the motivation behind having > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the designs doc under a single page. In my > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it could become a challenge to maintain a page, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowing what you want to accomplish could help us > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of alternative solutions? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 May 2018 at 14:08, Daniel Oliveira > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 to web site page (not Google Doc). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Definitely agree that a common entry point > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excellent. I don't like the idea of the Google > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doc > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so much because it's not very good for having > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes reviewed and keeping track of who added > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what, unlike Github. Adding an entry to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the website would require reviews and leave > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a commit history, which I think is important > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authoritative source like this. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: I also have a doc I proposed that I didn't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the lists: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-runner-api-combine-model > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:52 PM Lukasz Cwik > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, Thanks for picking this up Alexey > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:41 AM Huygaa > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Batsaikhan > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. That is great, Alexey. Robin and I are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working on documenting some missing pieces of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java SDK. We will let you know when we create > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> polished documents. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:28 AM Ismaël Mejía > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks for volunteering for this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexey. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We really need to make this more accesible. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:00 PM Alexey > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romanenko > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Joseph, Eugene - thank you very much for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > All, regarding one common entry point for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> design documents. Could we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just have a dedicated page on Beam web site > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of links to every > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed document? Every entry (optionally) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might contain, in addition, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short abstract and list of author(s). In this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case, it would be easily > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> searchable and available for those who are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in this. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > In the same time, using a Google doc for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing/discussing the documents > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems more than reasonable since it’s quite > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> native and easy to use. I only > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propose to have a common entry point to fall > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > If this idea looks feasible, I’d propose > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself to collect the links to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already created documents, create such page > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update this list in the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > WBR, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Alexey > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 22 May 2018, at 21:34, Eugene Kirpichov > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Making it easier to manage indeed would be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good. Could someone from PMC > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please add the following documents of mine > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > SDF related documents: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://s.apache.org/splittable-do-fn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://s.apache.org/sdf-via-source > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://s.apache.org/textio-sdf > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://s.apache.org/beam-watch-transform > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://s.apache.org/beam-breaking-fusion > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Non SDF related: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://s.apache.org/context-fn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://s.apache.org/fileio-write > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > A suggestion: maybe we can establish a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convention to send design document > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposals to [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:dev%[email protected]>? Does > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache mailing list > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> management software support this kind of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then they'd be quite easy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find and filter. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:57 AM Kenneth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Knowles <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> It is owned by the Beam PMC collectively. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PMC member can add things > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it. Ideas for making it easy to manage are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> welcome. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Probably easier to have a markdown file > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere with a list of docs so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can issue and review PRs. Not sure the web > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site is the right place for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it - we have a history of porting docs to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markdown but really that is high > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overhead and users/community probably don't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it so much. Some have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested a wiki. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Kenn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:22 AM Scott > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wegner > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Thanks for the links. Any details on that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google drive folder? Who > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintains it? Is it possible for any > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributor > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to add their design doc? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 8:15 AM Joseph > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PENG > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Alexey, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> I do not know where you can find all > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> design > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> docs, but I know a blog > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has collected some of the major design > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> docs. Hope it helps. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://wtanaka.com/beam/design-doc > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-IhJZh9Ab52OFBVZHpsNjc4eXc > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 9:28 AM Alexey > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romanenko < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Is it possible to obtain somewhere a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of all proposals / > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prototype documents that have been published > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a technical / design > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents for new features? I have links to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of them (found in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail list discussions by chance) but I’m not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of others. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> If yes, could someone share it or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out where it is located in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case if I missed this? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> If not, don’t you think it would make > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense to have such index of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these documents? I believe it can be useful > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beam contributors since > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these proposals contain information which is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absent or not so detailed on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beam web site documentation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> WBR, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Alexey > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >
