Yes, a hook would have to be added to allow specifying a different function
for choosing the shard number (I assume the problem is that there are cases
where the current random assignment is not good?). However this can be set
using PTransformOverride, we ideally shouldn't force the user to know
details of the runner when writing their code.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 7:52 AM Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org> wrote:

> Reuven is talking about PTransformOverride, e.g.
> FlinkTransformOverrides. We already use this to determine the number of
> shards in case of Runner-determined sharding.
>
> Not sure if that would work for Jozef's case because setting the number
> of shards is not enough. We want to set the shard key directly and that
> logic is buried inside WriteFiles.
>
> -Max
>
> On 25.04.19 16:30, Reuven Lax wrote:
> > Actually the runner is free to perform surgery on the graph. The
> > FlinkRunner can insert a custom function to determine the sharding keys.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 7:28 AM Jozef Vilcek <jozo.vil...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:jozo.vil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Right now, sharding can be specified only via target `shardCount`,
> >     be it user or runner. Next to configurable shardCount, I am
> >     proposing to be able to pass also a function which will allow to the
> >     user (or runner) control how is shard determined and what key will
> >     be used to represent it
> >
> >     interface ShardingFunction[UserT, DestinationT, ShardKeyT]  extends
> >     Serializable {
> >         ShardKeyT assign(DestinationT destination, UserT element,
> >     shardCount: Integer);
> >     }
> >
> >     Default implementation can be what is right now =>  random shard
> >     encapsulated as ShardedKey<Integer>.
> >
> >     On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:07 PM Reuven Lax <re...@google.com
> >     <mailto:re...@google.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         If sharding is not specified, then the semantics are
> >         "runner-determined sharding." The DataflowRunner already takes
> >         advantage of this to impose its own sharding if the user hasn't
> >         specified an explicit one. Could the Flink runner do the same
> >         instead of pushing this to the users?
> >
> >         On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:23 AM Maximilian Michels
> >         <m...@apache.org <mailto:m...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >             Hi Jozef,
> >
> >             For sharding in FileIO there are basically two options:
> >
> >             (1) num_shards ~= num_workers => bad spread of the load
> >             across workers
> >             (2) num_shards >> num_workers => good spread of the load
> >             across workers,
> >             but huge number of files
> >
> >             Your approach would give users control over the sharding
> >             keys such that
> >             they could be adjusted to spread load more evenly.
> >
> >             I'd like to hear from Beam IO experts if that would make
> sense.
> >
> >             Thanks,
> >             Max
> >
> >             On 25.04.19 08:52, Jozef Vilcek wrote:
> >              > Hello,
> >              >
> >              > Right now, if someone needs sharded files via FileIO,
> >             there is only one
> >              > option which is random (round robin) shard assignment per
> >             element and it
> >              > always use ShardedKey<Integer> as a key for the GBK which
> >             follows.
> >              >
> >              > I would like to generalize this and have a possibility to
> >             provide some
> >              > ShardingFn[UserT, DestinationT, ShardKeyT] via FileIO.
> >              > What I am mainly after is, to have a possibility to
> >             provide optimisation
> >              > for Flink runtime and pass in a special function which
> >             generates shard
> >              > keys in a way that they are evenly spread among workers
> >             (BEAM-5865).
> >              >
> >              > Would such extension for FileIO make sense? If yes, I
> >             would create a
> >              > ticket for it and try to draft a PR.
> >              >
> >              > Best,
> >              > Jozef
> >
>

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