The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:

> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dcava...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one
>>>> image
>>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>>>> (2) and (9).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough
>>>> sketches,
>>>> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>>>> >
>>>> > -Max
>>>> >
>>>> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>>>> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Fire2.jpg
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   _/
>>>> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcwea...@google.com
>>>> >> <mailto:kcwea...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout,
>>>> but
>>>> >>     the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a
>>>> "robot
>>>> >>     dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>>>> >> revisiting?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com
>>>> >>     <mailto:lc...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>         My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>         On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <r...@google.com
>>>> >>         <mailto:r...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>             Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>             On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>>>> >>             <k...@apache.org <mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they
>>>> are
>>>> >>                 taken if they are not too close in space to Beam:
>>>> Apache
>>>> >>                 projects, big data, log processing, stream
>>>> processing.
>>>> >>                 Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>>>> >>                 would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx
>>>> is
>>>> >>                 far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art
>>>> is
>>>> >>                 different.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>>>> >>                 related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>>>> >>                 non-extinct infraorder within
>>>> suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>>>> >>                 think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>>>> >>                 glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's
>>>> art
>>>> >>                 will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 Kenn
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>> >>                 <aizha...@apache.org <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur
>>>> is
>>>> >>                     also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>>>> >>                     mascots are taken, as long as the project is not
>>>> too
>>>> >>                     close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good
>>>> to
>>>> >>                     just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>>>> >>                     hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>>>> >>                     nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>>>> >>                     your point:
>>>> >>                      >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>>> >>                      >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>> >>                     My thinking is that the designer will come up
>>>> with
>>>> >>                     few sketches, then we vote on one here in the
>>>> dev@
>>>> >> list.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     [1]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     [2]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>>>> >>                     <m...@apache.org <mailto:m...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                         Quick update: The mentioned designer has
>>>> gotten
>>>> >>                         back to me and offered
>>>> >>                         to sketch something until the end of the
>>>> week.
>>>> >>                         I've pointed him to this
>>>> >>                         thread and the existing logo material:
>>>> >>                         https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                         [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in
>>>> any
>>>> >>                         way, I just think
>>>> >>                         having something concrete will help us to
>>>> >>                         eventually decide what we want.]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                         On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>> >>                          > How about fireflies in the Beam light
>>>> rays? ;)
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>>> >>                          >> eyes such as a lemur
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          > I love the lemur idea because it has
>>>> almost
>>>> >>                         orange eyes.
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>>>> >>                         recently talked to a designer
>>>> >>                          > which is somewhat famous for creating
>>>> logos.
>>>> >>                         He was inclined to work on
>>>> >>                          > a software project logo. Of course there
>>>> is a
>>>> >>                         little bit of a price tag
>>>> >>                          > attached, though the quote sounded
>>>> reasonable.
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          > It raises the general question, how do we
>>>> >>                         arrive at a concrete design
>>>> >>                          > once we have consensus on the type of
>>>> mascot?
>>>> >>                         I believe there are also
>>>> >>                          > designers working at companies using Beam
>>>> ;)
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          > Cheers,
>>>> >>                          > Max
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>>> >>                          >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
>>>> >>                         them), such as a lemur [1]
>>>> >>                          >> or an owl.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >> [1]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>>>> >>                         Knowles <k...@apache.org <mailto:
>>>> k...@apache.org>
>>>> >>                          >> <mailto:k...@apache.org
>>>> >>                         <mailto:k...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     Direct connections often have
>>>> >>                         duplicates. For example in the log
>>>> >>                          >>     processing space, there is
>>>> >>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>>>> >>                         already is a squirrel.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any
>>>> source of
>>>> >>                         confusion for this one.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     Kenn
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
>>>> >>                         Burke <rob...@frantil.com
>>>> >>                         <mailto:rob...@frantil.com>
>>>> >>                          >>     <mailto:rob...@frantil.com
>>>> >>                         <mailto:rob...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>         As both a Canadian, and the
>>>> resident
>>>> >>                         fan of a programming
>>>> >>                          >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>>>> >>                         endorse this mascot.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM
>>>> David
>>>> >>                         Cavazos <dcava...@google.com
>>>> >>                         <mailto:dcava...@google.com>
>>>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcava...@google.com
>>>> >>                         <mailto:dcava...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be
>>>> a
>>>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33
>>>> PM
>>>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>> >>                          >>             <aizha...@apache.org
>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>
>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizha...@apache.org
>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of
>>>> creating
>>>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>>>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>>>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through
>>>> with
>>>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>>>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>>>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am
>>>> proposing
>>>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>>> >>                          >> because:
>>>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams
>>>> out of
>>>> >>                         logs for streams
>>>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to
>>>> Beam
>>>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like
>>>> the
>>>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>>>> >>                          >>                 options that you think
>>>> could
>>>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>>>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>>>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM
>>>> David
>>>> >>                         Cavazos <dcava...@google.com
>>>> >>                         <mailto:dcava...@google.com>
>>>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcava...@google.com
>>>> >>                         <mailto:dcava...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be
>>>> a
>>>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33
>>>> PM
>>>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>> >>                          >>             <aizha...@apache.org
>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>
>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizha...@apache.org
>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of
>>>> creating
>>>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>>>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>>>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through
>>>> with
>>>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>>>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>>>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am
>>>> proposing
>>>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>>> >>                          >> because:
>>>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams
>>>> out of
>>>> >>                         logs for streams
>>>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to
>>>> Beam
>>>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like
>>>> the
>>>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>>>> >>                          >>                 options that you think
>>>> could
>>>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>>>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>>>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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