(Applied Ahmet's feedback in https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11156)

Hi Luke,

> the pom files that are produced

Build.gradle that uses the BOM will produce pom files that have
corresponding dependencies without versions, and have a
"dependencyManagement" section through which they import the GCP Libraries
BOM. This fills the versions of the versionless dependencies when build
systems evaluates the pom files.

> how the GCP BOM impacts the release process

I'm afraid I don't have knowledge on how dependencies affect the Beam
release process. Would you be willing to break down this concern into some
questions I can answer?




On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 6:13 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:

> My concern would be to validate how the GCP BOM impacts the release
> process and the pom files that are produced otherwise the next person
> running a release may run into trouble.
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 3:00 PM Pablo Estrada <pabl...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 2:41 PM Ismaël Mejía <ieme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well why we just don't merge it? I am unfamiliar with GCP deps to be
>>> confident to LGTM it. but given that 22 checks pass and given that
>>> Tomo addressed most comments and he has already a consistent track of
>>> good work on dependency improvements I think it is worth to merge it
>>> as it is. We still have some time to fix stuff if we find any
>>> regression. WDYT?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:36 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > As much as I would like to spend time on these reviews, I believe I'll
>>> be delayed from reviewing them thoroughly till I finish other work that I'm
>>> targeting for the 2.21 release related to portability. It would be greatly
>>> appreciated if there are others that could review this in the meantime.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 7:09 AM Tomo Suzuki <suzt...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> PR is ready (22 successful check)
>>> >> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11156
>>> >> (Luke assigned himself as a reviewer)
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Tomo
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:50 PM Tomo Suzuki <suzt...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thank you for favorable responses. I'll start implementation.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:22 PM Tomo Suzuki <suzt...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> > Do Spark or Flink have BOMs?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Not that I know of. I couldn't find "bom" in their artifacts [1, 2].
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> [1]: https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.apache.flink
>>> >>>> [2]: https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:org.apache.spark
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:46 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> +1 and you have phrased the benefits and limitations well. We have
>>> plenty of not-Google-related dependencies that use Guava and protobuf (I
>>> know of Calcite, Cassandra, Kinesis, and Spark) so there's still work in
>>> managing deps, but the BOM should make it a lot easier to upgrade all these
>>> tightly coupled libraries that Google ships from their head.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Do Spark or Flink have BOMs? I wonder if there's an opportunity to
>>> catch incompatible deps at a larger scale by comparing and merging a half
>>> dozen BOMs (although in the limit it approximately expands to one per
>>> runner and one per IO and projects mature and become independent)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Kenn
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:05 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> How would the Apache Beam BOM and GCP BOM work together?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 7:25 AM Filipe Regadas <
>>> filiperega...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Big +1, this is a step in the right direction and checking with
>>> other Beam's direct and transitive deps is crucial since the referred bom
>>> only convers a small part of it. Apache Commons, Jackson, `com.google.{api,
>>> apis, cloud}`, slf4j comes to mind.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Filipe Regadas
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 3:33 AM Ismaël Mejía <ieme...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> +1 Sounds like a good improvement for users and maintainers !
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:59 AM Alex Van Boxel <a...@vanboxel.be>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>> > +1, I can remember the countless hours that we fought with
>>> Google dependencies.
>>> >>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020, 04:07 Chamikara Jayalath <
>>> chamik...@google.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>> >> +1 for this.
>>> >>>>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>> >> This will make life easy for many of our users and will help
>>> us keep GCP related dependencies compatible (which has not been easy in the
>>> past).
>>> >>>>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 2:16 PM Tomo Suzuki <
>>> suzt...@google.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> Hi Beam developers,
>>> >>>>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> Shall we use GCP Libraries BOM [1] to specify the
>>> Google-related library versions in Beam?
>>> >>>>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> I've been working on Beam's dependency upgrades in the past
>>> few months. It's time to consider a long-term solution to keep the
>>> libraries up-to-date with small maintenance effort. To achieve that, I
>>> propose Beam to use GCP Libraries BOM to set the Google-related library
>>> versions, rather than the current way of making changes in each of ~30
>>> Google libraries with individual PRs [2].
>>> >>>>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> After the proposal is implemented, Beam project upgrades
>>> the BOM version to upgrade these Google-related libraries. This still needs
>>> to ensure the libraries in GCP Library BOM are compatible with Beam's other
>>> dependencies. (Linkage Checker will help with this job.) I believe
>>> onboarding GCP Libraries BOM will solve lots of incompatibilities which we
>>> have seen in gax, gRPC, google-cloud-core, and so on with minimal effort in
>>> Beam's developers.
>>> >>>>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> Created an issue to track this: BEAM-9444 [3]. I appreciate
>>> if you can share questions or feedback (thumbs-up / concerns).
>>> >>>>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> [1]:
>>> https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloud-opensource-java/wiki/The-Google-Cloud-Platform-Libraries-BOM
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> [2]:
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pulls?page=1&q=is%3Apr+author%3Asuztomo
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-9444
>>> >>>>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> --
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>>>>>>> >>> Tomo
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> Regards,
>>> >>>> Tomo
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>> Tomo
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Tomo
>>>
>>

-- 
Regards,
Tomo

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