Hey!

Just so I understand this correctly then, what does the following quote from [1], section 3.2.3 mean:

A PCollection is immutable. Once created, you cannot add, remove, or change individual elements. A Beam Transform might process each element of a PCollection and generate new pipeline data (as a new PCollection), *but it does not consume or modify the original input collection.*

(Don't know what the normal way of highlighting is on mailing lists, so I just put it between *)

I read this as meaning that it is the users responsibilty to make sure that their transformations do not modify the input, but should I rather read it as meaning the beam runner itself should make sure the user cannot make such a mistake? I find this reading at odds with the documentation about the direct runner and it's express purpose being to make sure users doesn't rely on semantics the beam model doesn't ensure. And modifying of input arguments being one of the constraints listed. [2].

It doesn't change the outcome here, adding an opt out switch, but if I've missunderstood the quote above, I think this might benefit by being reworded, to make sure it is communicated that shooting yourself in the foot is impossible and the direct runner testing of modifying input should be removed, as there is no point in users making sure to not modifying the input if all runners guarantee it.


Also, I ran the whole Flink test suite with a simple return instead of the deep copy and all tests passed, so there is no such test in there. Depending on the reading above, we should add such tests to all runners.

Best regards,
Teodor Spæren

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:16:30AM +0100, Maximilian Michels wrote:
Ok then we are on the same page, but I disagree with your conclusion. The reason Flink has to do the deep copy is that it doesn't state that the inputs are immutable and should not be changed, and so have to do the deep copy. In Beam, the user is not supposed to modify the input collection and if they do, it's undefined behavior. This is the reason the DirectRunner checks for this, to make sure the users are not relying on it.

It's not written anywhere that the input cannot be mutated. A DirectRunner test is not a proof. Any runner could add a test which proves the opposite. In fact we may have one that checks copying for Flink.

I prefer safety and correctness over performance because I've seen too many cases where users shoot themselves in the foot. We should make sure that, by default, the user cannot modify the input element. An option to disable that is fine.

-Max

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