Hi Antonio,

Thanks for the details! Which version of Beam SDK are you using? And are
you using --experiments=beam_fn_api with DirectRunner to launch your
pipeline?

For ReadFromKafkaDoFn.processElement(), it will take a Kafka
topic+partition as input element and a KafkaConsumer will be assigned to
this topic+partition then poll records continuously. The Kafka consumer
will resume reading and return from the process fn when

   - There are no available records currently(this is a feature of SDF
   which calls SDF self-initiated checkpoint)
   - The OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker issues
   checkpoint request to ReadFromKafkaDoFn for getting partial results. The
   checkpoint frequency for DirectRunner is every 100 output records or every
   1 seconds.

It seems like either the self-initiated checkpoint or DirectRunner issued
checkpoint gives you the performance regression since there is overhead
when rescheduling residuals. In your case, it's more like that the
checkpoint behavior of OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker
gives you 200 elements a batch. I want to understand what kind of
performance regression you are noticing? Is it slower to output the same
amount of records?

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:31 PM Antonio Si <antonio...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Boyuan,
>
> This is Antonio. I reported the KafkaIO.read() performance issue on the
> slack channel a few days ago.
>
> I am not sure if this is helpful, but I have been doing some debugging on
> the SDK KafkaIO performance issue for our pipeline and I would like to
> provide some observations.
>
> It looks like in my case the ReadFromKafkaDoFn.processElement()  was
> invoked within the same thread and every time kafaconsumer.poll() is
> called, it returns some records, from 1 up to 200 records. So, it will
> proceed to run the pipeline steps. Each kafkaconsumer.poll() takes about
> 0.8ms. So, in this case, the polling and running of the pipeline are
> executed sequentially within a single thread. So, after processing a batch
> of records, it will need to wait for 0.8ms before it can process the next
> batch of records again.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Antonio.
>
> On 2020/12/04 19:17:46, Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com> wrote:
> > Opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-11403 for tracking.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 10:52 AM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the pointer, Steve! I'll check it out. The execution paths
> for
> > > UnboundedSource and SDF wrapper are different. It's highly possible
> that
> > > the regression either comes from the invocation path for SDF wrapper,
> or
> > > the implementation of SDF wrapper itself.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 6:33 AM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Coincidentally, someone else in the ASF slack mentioned [1] yesterday
> > >> that they were seeing significantly reduced performance using
> KafkaIO.Read
> > >> w/ the SDF wrapper vs the unbounded source.  They mentioned they were
> using
> > >> flink 1.9.
> > >>
> > >> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/C9H0YNP3P/p1607057900393900
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:56 PM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Steve,
> > >>>
> > >>> I think the major performance regression comes from
> > >>> OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker[1], which will
> > >>> checkpoint the DoFn based on time/output limit and use timers/state
> to
> > >>> reschedule works.
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]
> > >>>
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/runners/core-java/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/core/OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker.java
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:40 AM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I have a pipeline that reads from pubsub, does some aggregation, and
> > >>>> writes to various places.  Previously, in older versions of beam,
> when
> > >>>> running this in the DirectRunner, messages would go through the
> pipeline
> > >>>> almost instantly, making it very easy to debug locally, etc.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> However, after upgrading to beam 2.25, I noticed that it could take
> on
> > >>>> the order of 5-10 minutes for messages to get from the pubsub read
> step to
> > >>>> the next step in the pipeline (deserializing them, etc).  The
> subscription
> > >>>> being read from has on the order of 100,000 elements/sec arriving
> in it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Setting --experiments=use_deprecated_read fixes it, and makes the
> > >>>> pipeline behave as it did before.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It seems like the SDF implementation in the DirectRunner here is
> > >>>> causing some kind of issue, either buffering a very large amount of
> data
> > >>>> before emitting it in a bundle, or something else.  Has anyone else
> run
> > >>>> into this?
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
>

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