>From what I've seen, the direct runner initiates a checkpoint after every
element output.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 5:19 PM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com> wrote:

> Hi Antonio,
>
> Thanks for the details! Which version of Beam SDK are you using? And are
> you using --experiments=beam_fn_api with DirectRunner to launch your
> pipeline?
>
> For ReadFromKafkaDoFn.processElement(), it will take a Kafka
> topic+partition as input element and a KafkaConsumer will be assigned to
> this topic+partition then poll records continuously. The Kafka consumer
> will resume reading and return from the process fn when
>
>    - There are no available records currently(this is a feature of SDF
>    which calls SDF self-initiated checkpoint)
>    - The OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker issues
>    checkpoint request to ReadFromKafkaDoFn for getting partial results. The
>    checkpoint frequency for DirectRunner is every 100 output records or every
>    1 seconds.
>
> It seems like either the self-initiated checkpoint or DirectRunner issued
> checkpoint gives you the performance regression since there is overhead
> when rescheduling residuals. In your case, it's more like that the
> checkpoint behavior of OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker
> gives you 200 elements a batch. I want to understand what kind of
> performance regression you are noticing? Is it slower to output the same
> amount of records?
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:31 PM Antonio Si <antonio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Boyuan,
>>
>> This is Antonio. I reported the KafkaIO.read() performance issue on the
>> slack channel a few days ago.
>>
>> I am not sure if this is helpful, but I have been doing some debugging on
>> the SDK KafkaIO performance issue for our pipeline and I would like to
>> provide some observations.
>>
>> It looks like in my case the ReadFromKafkaDoFn.processElement()  was
>> invoked within the same thread and every time kafaconsumer.poll() is
>> called, it returns some records, from 1 up to 200 records. So, it will
>> proceed to run the pipeline steps. Each kafkaconsumer.poll() takes about
>> 0.8ms. So, in this case, the polling and running of the pipeline are
>> executed sequentially within a single thread. So, after processing a batch
>> of records, it will need to wait for 0.8ms before it can process the next
>> batch of records again.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Antonio.
>>
>> On 2020/12/04 19:17:46, Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com> wrote:
>> > Opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-11403 for tracking.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 10:52 AM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks for the pointer, Steve! I'll check it out. The execution paths
>> for
>> > > UnboundedSource and SDF wrapper are different. It's highly possible
>> that
>> > > the regression either comes from the invocation path for SDF wrapper,
>> or
>> > > the implementation of SDF wrapper itself.
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 6:33 AM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Coincidentally, someone else in the ASF slack mentioned [1] yesterday
>> > >> that they were seeing significantly reduced performance using
>> KafkaIO.Read
>> > >> w/ the SDF wrapper vs the unbounded source.  They mentioned they
>> were using
>> > >> flink 1.9.
>> > >>
>> > >> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/C9H0YNP3P/p1607057900393900
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:56 PM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hi Steve,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I think the major performance regression comes from
>> > >>> OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker[1], which will
>> > >>> checkpoint the DoFn based on time/output limit and use timers/state
>> to
>> > >>> reschedule works.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> [1]
>> > >>>
>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/runners/core-java/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/core/OutputAndTimeBoundedSplittableProcessElementInvoker.java
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:40 AM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> I have a pipeline that reads from pubsub, does some aggregation,
>> and
>> > >>>> writes to various places.  Previously, in older versions of beam,
>> when
>> > >>>> running this in the DirectRunner, messages would go through the
>> pipeline
>> > >>>> almost instantly, making it very easy to debug locally, etc.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> However, after upgrading to beam 2.25, I noticed that it could
>> take on
>> > >>>> the order of 5-10 minutes for messages to get from the pubsub read
>> step to
>> > >>>> the next step in the pipeline (deserializing them, etc).  The
>> subscription
>> > >>>> being read from has on the order of 100,000 elements/sec arriving
>> in it.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Setting --experiments=use_deprecated_read fixes it, and makes the
>> > >>>> pipeline behave as it did before.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> It seems like the SDF implementation in the DirectRunner here is
>> > >>>> causing some kind of issue, either buffering a very large amount
>> of data
>> > >>>> before emitting it in a bundle, or something else.  Has anyone
>> else run
>> > >>>> into this?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>>
>

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