Yes and yes.
Hadrian

On 10/12/2015 12:12 PM, Alex Heneveld wrote:

Will we still be able to run testng tests w/o osgi?  Or can osgi load
times be kept very very low?

Currently many unit tests don't configure osgi because it is the
difference between a test taking <1s to run and >10s to run.  To
encourage test-driven dev I'd like to keep that low round-trip time.

--A


On 12/10/2015 17:40, Ciprian Ciubotariu wrote:
Oh, I see.

The pax-exam runner has a testng driver, which means that the general
aspect
of tests will remain the same. However, pax-exam will start/stop the osgi
framework before running tests and inject various needed services into
the
test class. One such service might be the framework itself.

Cipi

On Monday 12 October 2015 16:31:22 Aled Sage wrote:
Thanks Ciprian,

Yes, I think that answers my question.

I assumed you would say pax-exam runner :-) I'm not familiar enough with
it to picture what the tests would look like and how it would change the
way we run our tests (both in the IDE and from jenkins), but that
doesn't need described/addressed right now.

Aled

On 12/10/2015 16:25, Ciprian Ciubotariu wrote:
On Monday 12 October 2015 15:35:24 Aled Sage wrote:
+1; sounds sensible.

Would brooklyn-core have a dependency on brooklyn-rt-felix?
Yes, during build time and with the current launcher(s). However, the
brooklyn-core OSGi bundle won't import the packages of
brooklyn-rt-felix,
and the osgi container services will be used instead.

Presumably the unit tests in core would continue to run outside of
Karaf
(e.g.
org.apache.brooklyn.core.mgmt.osgi.OsgiVersionMoreEntityTest)? How
would you imagine those tests be run/rewritten once the
OSGi'fication is
complete?
At the moment they will continue to be executed by the testng
runner, but
they would be migrated to the pax-exam runner. Was this the target of
your question?

Aled

On 12/10/2015 14:53, Ciprian Ciubotariu wrote:
While working on running Brooklyn inside Karaf I ran into the code
that
manages an embedded Apache Felix runtime.

Since the roles are now reversed, I propose to split brooklyn-core
into
the
following:

* brooklyn-core - new implementation using the Karaf-provided OSGi
runtime
* brooklyn-rt-felix - existing code using felix as an embedded OSGI
runtime
(which will no longer be needed when OSGification is complete)

This change is much needed since the Apache Felix packages that
are used
to
start and stop the embedded framework are private within the felix
bundle

My intention is to move current code to brooklyn-rt-felix, and
defer to
it
when the Karaf container is not present, while using the
Karaf-provided
felix/equinox framework by default.

I have already started to code in that direction, but since this is a
larger change I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.


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