On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 12:04 AM Viliam Durina <vil...@hazelcast.com> wrote:

> > 2. rename the hop_size to emit_frequency. Because that's what this
> argument tries to say: e.g. emit in every x time_unit.
>
> It's not about how often you emit. By "emit" I mean the moment when the
> rows are sent out. For example, when working with event time and the input
> stalls, you might emit much later. Or you can use it for historical data in
> which case the actual interval will be much shorter. It's the time interval
> by which the window "hops". Two subsequent windows will be this much apart.
>
> Regarding the DESCRIPTOR, the PTF is supposed to be implemented by up to 4
> member functions: describe, start, fulfill, finish. The `describe` function
> is supposed to be called during validation. It can validate the arguments.
> In case of TUMBLE, it can check whether the column described by the
> descriptor is present in the input table and if it is of a correct type. It
> can throw errors which will become validation errors.

Yes. Descriptor has a feature to enable a type checking. If considering it,
functions will be (argument name not decided yet):

TUMBLE(
data TABLE,
time_column DESCRIPTOR(*TIMESTAMP*),
window_size INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
offset INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND DEFAULT INTERVAL '0' SECONDS)

HOP(
data TABLE,
time_column DESCRIPTOR(*TIMESTAMP*),
window_size INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
emit_frequency INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
offset INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND DEFAULT INTERVAL '0' SECONDS)




> It also determines
> the actual output table type.
>
> I think it's worthwhile to read the PTF spec before implementing this, it's
> freely available here:
>
> https://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/c069776_ISO_IEC_TR_19075-7_2017.zip
>
> Viliam
>
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 06:23, Rui Wang <amaliu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Danny for your summary!
> >
> > For question one, I prefer the ordering of parameter in option two.
> > However, for argument names, I think it might be better to
> > 1. name the window size explicitly by "window_size".
> > 2. rename the hop_size to emit_frequency. Because that's what this
> > argument tries to say: e.g. emit in every x time_unit.
> > 3. don't use "table" as the first argument name, because "table" is a
> > keyword. So we can replace it by "data"
> >
> > so it might be
> > TUMBLE(data, DESCRIPTOR(time_column), window_size[, offset])
> > HOP(data, DESCRIPTOR(time_column), window_size, emit_frequency[, offset])
> >
> > Meanwhile, one thing worths mentioning is, like Viliam always discussed
> in
> > CALCITE-4000[1], we can also finalize the data types for each signature:
> > TUMBLE(
> > data TABLE,
> > time_column DESCRIPTOR,
> > window_size INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
> > offset INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND DEFAULT INTERVAL '0' SECONDS)
> >
> > HOP(
> > data TABLE,
> > time_column DESCRIPTOR,
> > window_size INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
> > emit_frequency INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
> > offset INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND DEFAULT INTERVAL '0' SECONDS)
> >
> > So those intervals have to be INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND, not INTERVAL YEAR
> TO
> > MONTH, because year to month varies in seconds.
> >
> >
> > Regarding question two, I tried to dig into codebase and I think it could
> > be a RexCorrelVariable to replace that table_name, so it becomes
> > table_function(RexCorrelVariable, DESCRIPTOR($1), internal:INTERVAL
> MINUTE)
> >
> > I know RexCorrelVariable might be not designed for this purpose, but I
> > find RexCorrelVariable is really useful because:
> > 1. It can provide an id, to indicate which input of TableFunctionScan
> that
> > this table_function is applied on. Note that TableFunctionScan might not
> > have one input.
> > 2. It can provide RelDataType, to save the referenced input's schema. The
> > input schema is useful during operator argument type validation (for
> > DESCRIPTOR) and operator return type inference.
> >
> >
> > [1]:
> >
> >
> https://jira.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-4000?focusedCommentId=17107665&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17107665
> >
> >
> > -Rui
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 6:02 AM Danny Chan <yuzhao....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, all, in the last 2 releases, Rui Wang has contributed the window
> > table
> > > functions to replace the legacy group window syntax, the idea comes
> from
> > > the SQL-2016 polymorphic table functions. But the current
> implementation
> > > also got some feedbacks(or confusion), this thread tries to have a
> > > discussion on theses questions that are undecided.
> > >
> > > One is about the window function argument names:
> > >
> > > === option1
> > > TUMBLE(table, DESCRIPTOR(datetime), interval, offset)
> > > HOP(table, DESCRIPTOR(time_column), slide, size)
> > >
> > > === option2
> > > TUMBLE(table, DESCRIPTOR(time_column), size, offset)
> > > HOP(table, DESCRIPTOR(time_column), size, hop_size, offset)
> > >
> > > I would prefer for option2 for the reasons pointed out by Viliam in
> > > CALCITE-3737.
> > >
> > >
> > > Another is about how to translate the query
> > >
> > > For query, select * from TUMBLE(table, DESCRIPTOR(time_column),
> > interval);
> > >
> > > Currently our outputs plan is:
> > >
> > > LogicalProject(ORDERID=[$0], ROWTIME=[$1], window_start=[$2],
> > > window_end=[$3])
> > > LogicalTableFunctionScan(invocation=[TUMBLE(DESCRIPTOR($1),
> > > interal:INTERVAL MINUTE)], rowType=[RecordType(INTEGER ORDERID,
> > > TIMESTAMP(0) time_column, TIMESTAMP(0) window_start, TIMESTAMP(0)
> > > window_end)])
> > > LogicalProject(ORDERID=[$0], ROWTIME=[$1])
> > > LogicalTableScan(table=[[CATALOG, SALES, SHIPMENTS]])
> > >
> > > But this seems not right, because the "table table_name" argument is
> not
> > a
> > > relational expression, in CALCITE-3955, Julian has pointed out that we
> > > should translate the "table" argument as a CURSOR (or TABLE by Viliam),
> > but
> > > another question is how to translate the referenced name "time_column",
> > to
> > > a correlate variable ? which is also confusing because there is no
> > > correlation in the plan actually.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions are appreciated !
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3955
> > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3737
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Danny Chan
> > >
> >
>
>
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