Hi Julian,

What do you think about the idea above that merging window start and window
end as a composite column?

cc @Julian

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 12:01, Rui Wang <amaliu...@apache.org> wrote:

> This seems reasonable to merge window metadata as a column (more compact
> format).
>
> Maybe Julian can comment whether there was special consideration to define
> window_start and window_end as two separate columns?
>
>
> -Rui
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 8:20 PM Danny Chan <danny0...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Some of our fellows suggest the window table value functions to append a
> > structure type field:
> >
> > window: ROW(start: timestamp(3), end: timestamp(3))
> >
> > For example if
> >
> > table T has schema: (ts: timestamp(3), b: varchar(20)), then
> >
> > Tumble(TABLE T, DESCRIPTOR(T.ts), INTERVAL '5' MINUTE)
> >
> > has return type
> >
> > Row(ts timestamp(3), b varchar(20), window Row(start timestamp(3), end
> > timestamp(3)))
> >
> > Thus in the aggregate key or the join condition, we can compare the
> > structure “window” field directly, e.g.
> >
> > GROUP BY T.window or ON L.window = R.window
> >
> > What do you think about this ?
> >
> > Rui Wang <amaliu...@apache.org> 于2020年6月9日周二 上午1:34写道:
> >
> > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 12:04 AM Viliam Durina <vil...@hazelcast.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > 2. rename the hop_size to emit_frequency. Because that's what this
> > > > argument tries to say: e.g. emit in every x time_unit.
> > > >
> > > > It's not about how often you emit. By "emit" I mean the moment when
> the
> > > > rows are sent out. For example, when working with event time and the
> > > input
> > > > stalls, you might emit much later. Or you can use it for historical
> > data
> > > in
> > > > which case the actual interval will be much shorter. It's the time
> > > interval
> > > > by which the window "hops". Two subsequent windows will be this much
> > > apart.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the DESCRIPTOR, the PTF is supposed to be implemented by up
> > to
> > > 4
> > > > member functions: describe, start, fulfill, finish. The `describe`
> > > function
> > > > is supposed to be called during validation. It can validate the
> > > arguments.
> > > > In case of TUMBLE, it can check whether the column described by the
> > > > descriptor is present in the input table and if it is of a correct
> > type.
> > > It
> > > > can throw errors which will become validation errors.
> > >
> > > Yes. Descriptor has a feature to enable a type checking. If considering
> > it,
> > > functions will be (argument name not decided yet):
> > >
> > > TUMBLE(
> > > data TABLE,
> > > time_column DESCRIPTOR(*TIMESTAMP*),
> > > window_size INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
> > > offset INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND DEFAULT INTERVAL '0' SECONDS)
> > >
> > > HOP(
> > > data TABLE,
> > > time_column DESCRIPTOR(*TIMESTAMP*),
> > > window_size INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
> > > emit_frequency INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
> > > offset INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND DEFAULT INTERVAL '0' SECONDS)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > It also determines
> > > > the actual output table type.
> > > >
> > > > I think it's worthwhile to read the PTF spec before implementing
> this,
> > > it's
> > > > freely available here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/c069776_ISO_IEC_TR_19075-7_2017.zip
> > > >
> > > > Viliam
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 06:23, Rui Wang <amaliu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Danny for your summary!
> > > > >
> > > > > For question one, I prefer the ordering of parameter in option two.
> > > > > However, for argument names, I think it might be better to
> > > > > 1. name the window size explicitly by "window_size".
> > > > > 2. rename the hop_size to emit_frequency. Because that's what this
> > > > > argument tries to say: e.g. emit in every x time_unit.
> > > > > 3. don't use "table" as the first argument name, because "table"
> is a
> > > > > keyword. So we can replace it by "data"
> > > > >
> > > > > so it might be
> > > > > TUMBLE(data, DESCRIPTOR(time_column), window_size[, offset])
> > > > > HOP(data, DESCRIPTOR(time_column), window_size, emit_frequency[,
> > > offset])
> > > > >
> > > > > Meanwhile, one thing worths mentioning is, like Viliam always
> > discussed
> > > > in
> > > > > CALCITE-4000[1], we can also finalize the data types for each
> > > signature:
> > > > > TUMBLE(
> > > > > data TABLE,
> > > > > time_column DESCRIPTOR,
> > > > > window_size INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
> > > > > offset INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND DEFAULT INTERVAL '0' SECONDS)
> > > > >
> > > > > HOP(
> > > > > data TABLE,
> > > > > time_column DESCRIPTOR,
> > > > > window_size INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
> > > > > emit_frequency INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND,
> > > > > offset INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND DEFAULT INTERVAL '0' SECONDS)
> > > > >
> > > > > So those intervals have to be INTERVAL DAY TO SECOND, not INTERVAL
> > YEAR
> > > > TO
> > > > > MONTH, because year to month varies in seconds.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding question two, I tried to dig into codebase and I think it
> > > could
> > > > > be a RexCorrelVariable to replace that table_name, so it becomes
> > > > > table_function(RexCorrelVariable, DESCRIPTOR($1), internal:INTERVAL
> > > > MINUTE)
> > > > >
> > > > > I know RexCorrelVariable might be not designed for this purpose,
> but
> > I
> > > > > find RexCorrelVariable is really useful because:
> > > > > 1. It can provide an id, to indicate which input of
> TableFunctionScan
> > > > that
> > > > > this table_function is applied on. Note that TableFunctionScan
> might
> > > not
> > > > > have one input.
> > > > > 2. It can provide RelDataType, to save the referenced input's
> schema.
> > > The
> > > > > input schema is useful during operator argument type validation
> (for
> > > > > DESCRIPTOR) and operator return type inference.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://jira.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-4000?focusedCommentId=17107665&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17107665
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rui
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 6:02 AM Danny Chan <yuzhao....@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, all, in the last 2 releases, Rui Wang has contributed the
> > window
> > > > > table
> > > > > > functions to replace the legacy group window syntax, the idea
> comes
> > > > from
> > > > > > the SQL-2016 polymorphic table functions. But the current
> > > > implementation
> > > > > > also got some feedbacks(or confusion), this thread tries to have
> a
> > > > > > discussion on theses questions that are undecided.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One is about the window function argument names:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > === option1
> > > > > > TUMBLE(table, DESCRIPTOR(datetime), interval, offset)
> > > > > > HOP(table, DESCRIPTOR(time_column), slide, size)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > === option2
> > > > > > TUMBLE(table, DESCRIPTOR(time_column), size, offset)
> > > > > > HOP(table, DESCRIPTOR(time_column), size, hop_size, offset)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would prefer for option2 for the reasons pointed out by Viliam
> in
> > > > > > CALCITE-3737.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another is about how to translate the query
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For query, select * from TUMBLE(table, DESCRIPTOR(time_column),
> > > > > interval);
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently our outputs plan is:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LogicalProject(ORDERID=[$0], ROWTIME=[$1], window_start=[$2],
> > > > > > window_end=[$3])
> > > > > > LogicalTableFunctionScan(invocation=[TUMBLE(DESCRIPTOR($1),
> > > > > > interal:INTERVAL MINUTE)], rowType=[RecordType(INTEGER ORDERID,
> > > > > > TIMESTAMP(0) time_column, TIMESTAMP(0) window_start, TIMESTAMP(0)
> > > > > > window_end)])
> > > > > > LogicalProject(ORDERID=[$0], ROWTIME=[$1])
> > > > > > LogicalTableScan(table=[[CATALOG, SALES, SHIPMENTS]])
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But this seems not right, because the "table table_name" argument
> > is
> > > > not
> > > > > a
> > > > > > relational expression, in CALCITE-3955, Julian has pointed out
> that
> > > we
> > > > > > should translate the "table" argument as a CURSOR (or TABLE by
> > > Viliam),
> > > > > but
> > > > > > another question is how to translate the referenced name
> > > "time_column",
> > > > > to
> > > > > > a correlate variable ? which is also confusing because there is
> no
> > > > > > correlation in the plan actually.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions are appreciated !
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3955
> > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3737
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Danny Chan
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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