If I recall correctly, my experience is you have to code per underlying
database. I believe there are only a few patterns but I don't think there
is sufficient odbc/jdbc info to answer behavior reliably (or at least in a
way that feels correct/native to each database). For example, I believe
some databases require catalog selection at the connection level and so
while a catalog concept exists, you have to use different connections for
each catalog whereas other databases expose catalog within a connection.

This is all quite old thinking. I remember writing some simpler logic for
this here years ago at [1]. Note that code is long sense changed but wanted
to call it.

[1]
https://github.com/apache/drill/blob/18a1ae4d31cd502d2f792b331fefeb0ed2106c53/contrib/storage-jdbc/src/main/java/org/apache/drill/exec/store/jdbc/JdbcStoragePlugin.java#L301


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 7:38 PM Gavin Ray <[email protected]> wrote:

> The filesystem hierarchy is a great analogy, I understand it much better
> now I think -- thank you.
>
> This seems like a problem with potentially very brittle solutions. Using
> your explanation I was able to get it to work,
> with very terrible logic that says "If catalogs are all null, then it's
> one-level so make a fake "root" schema to hold it in the rootSchema"
>
> But this doesn't feel so good. Not 100% sure what the best thing to do here
> is, but at least you've cleared up what's going on.
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 6:41 PM Julian Hyde <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Let’s not worry about the names, and say that some DBs have two namespace
> > levels and others have just one.
> >
> > Calcite’s word for a namespace is ’schema’. Calcite schemas are arranged
> > in a hierarchy, like a filesystem, so there is no preferred depth. Any
> > schema can contain both tables and (sub)schemas. So you can easily built
> a
> > one- or two-level namespace structure, or whatever you want.
> >
> > Calcite’s catalog has a single ‘root schema’ (analogous to the root
> > directory, ‘/‘ in file systems), and you can get to anything else from
> > there.
> >
> > In JDBC parlance, a a level 1 namespace is called ‘catalog’, and a level
> 2
> > namespace is a ’schema’. If a DB has a one-level namespace then catalog
> > will be null, or the empty string, or something.
> >
> > If you’re running an Avatica JDBC server backed by a particular Calcite
> > root schema, and you want your database to look like a one-level or
> > two-level database, we probably don’t make it particularly easy.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 27, 2022, at 7:25 AM, Gavin Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > My RDBMS experience is nearly exclusively Postgres
> > > While working on this project, I've made the assumption that the
> > structure
> > > of a database is:
> > >
> > > Database -> Schema -> Table
> > >
> > > It turns out that this isn't accurate. In MySQL for instance, "Schema"
> is
> > > an alias for "DB".
> > > From the below StackOverflow answer, it seems like this is all over the
> > > place:
> > >
> > > https://stackoverflow.com/a/7944489/13485494
> > >
> > > I have a "CalciteSchemaManager" object which has a "rootSchema" to
> which
> > > all datasources are attached
> > > This "rootSchema" is used to generate the GraphQL API and types
> > >
> > > It seems like I have two options, and I'm not sure which is a better
> > design:
> > >
> > > 1. Force all datasources to conform to (Database -> Schema -> Table)
> > >
> > > This means that adding a new MySQL database, would generate ("mysql_db"
> > ->
> > > "root" (fake schema) -> "some_table")
> > > Adding a CSV schema too, would be something like ("csv_datasource" ->
> > > "root" -> "some_csv_file")
> > >
> > > 2. Have an irregular data shape. Datasources can be of arbitrary
> > sub-schema
> > > depth.
> > >
> > > Example Postgres: ("pg_db_1" -> "public" -> "user")
> > > Example MySQL:   ("mysql_db_1" -> "user")
> > > Example CSV: ("some_csv_file") or maybe ("csv_source_1" ->
> > "some_csv_file")
> > >
> > > What do you folks think I ought to do?
> > > Thank you =)
> >
> >
>

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