+1 for the improvement. As the current chair until the end of the year, when do you think it would be a good time to send the email to the dev list with the message "It's time to change the PMC chair, please send nominations to private@ ..." to start this discussion? Around beginning of December?
Best, Ruben On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 7:45 AM Alessandro Solimando < alessandro.solima...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 from me too on adopting Julian's suggestion. > > Best regards, > Alessandro > > On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 07:37, Forward Xu <forwardxu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > +1 > > > > Haisheng Yuan <hy...@apache.org> 于2022年7月4日周一 08:32写道： > > > > > +1 to the improvement. > > > > > > On 2022/07/04 00:13:58 Francis Chuang wrote: > > > > +1 I think this is a good idea. We have a lot of capable PMC members > > and > > > > it would be of great benefit to the project if all of them were > > > > considered during the PMC chair selection process. > > > > > > > > On 4/07/2022 9:46 am, Julian Hyde wrote: > > > > > As you know, Calcite has a tradition of choosing a new PMC chair > (VP) > > > > > each year, around the anniversary of the project's > graduation[1][2]. > > I > > > > > think this is a great tradition, but I'd like to discuss an > > > > > improvement to that process. > > > > > > > > > > (I'm starting the conversation now - several months after the > > previous > > > > > vote, and several months before the next - so that it's clear that > I > > > > > am not criticizing the process or the outcome or previous votes.) > > > > > > > > > > I've noticed that the outgoing chair sends an email on dev@ saying > > > > > words to the following effect: > > > > > > > > > > I think Xyz would be a great person to succeed me. > > > > > What do you all think? > > > > > > > > > > (I fear that I may have started this tradition when, at the end of > my > > > > > tenure as first chair, I approached Jesus and asked him whether > he'd > > > > > be prepared to do the job[3]. Mea culpa.) > > > > > > > > > > After such an outright endorsement, especially on a public list, it > > > > > would be churlish for someone to reply "Actually, I think Abc would > > be > > > > > better." As a result, it's rather difficult to have an open debate, > > > > > and the candidate selected by the outgoing chair tends to win > > > > > unopposed. > > > > > > > > > > I suggest that the outgoing chair says something like > > > > > > > > > > It's time to change the PMC chair. > > > > > Please send nominations to private@ and the PMC will discuss > and > > > vote. > > > > > > > > > > That would allow for several nominations, allow people to give > > reasons > > > > > why they prefer a candidate (without disparaging other candidates), > > > > > and lead to a more informed outcome. > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? Are there any other aspects of the election > > process > > > > > we should change? > > > > > > > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > [1] > https://lists.apache.org/thread/rmj9qm9wlol3nb7z4phddoljbgvypkrt > > > > > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread/5tzb8w655pj2vo9omz20th5jnbn9zww7 > > > > > [3] > https://lists.apache.org/thread/y4wjdj5h1y3sypnlmhpoz9r6bkk3cv6o > > > > > > > > > >
