Good; thanks.

> On Mar 10, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> In maven without a -SNAPSHOT on it will do as a substitute definition.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Since the dependency is from a third-party which does not follow the
>> Apache release process, the definition of "released" is a grey area.
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 1:32 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So the dependency should be on the as yet unreleased artifact?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Not yet. But they have told me that they intend to. And I think
>> committing
>>>> that change to a public repository is a clear indication that they
>> intend
>>>> to change the license.
>>>> 
>>>> As you can see from comments in
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-605 we still trying to
>>>> clarify this.
>>>> 
>>>> Julian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has that change been released?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pentaho changed the license from GPL to Apache. See
>>>>>> https://github.com/pentaho/pentaho-aggdesigner/commit/8009426, made
>> by
>>>>>> Pentaho's Chief Architect, Will Gorman.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Vladimir Sitnikov <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Calcite has a runtime dependency on
>>>>>>> org.pentaho:pentaho-aggdesigner-algorithm:5.1.5-jhyde
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Juilan,
>>>>>>> Can you please clarify what is the source of that artifact?
>>>>>>> Is it actually safe under Apache 2 license?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> pentaho-aggdesigner is clearly GPL-2 licensed:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://github.com/pentaho/pentaho-aggdesigner/blob/master/pentaho-aggdesigner-core/gpl-2.0.txt
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am not an expert in licensing issues, however I think it is not
>>>>>>> valid to change project license from GPL to whatever by merely
>>>>>>> performing a fork
>>>>>>> (
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://github.com/julianhyde/pentaho-aggdesigner/commit/c9dd9a057ec5a74eefeee63b3a519aa26c7733e2
>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It looks like we should either drop pentaho-aggdesigner dependency,
>> or
>>>>>>> convince pentaho to enable Apache 2 compatible usage of the artifact
>>>>>>> in question.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Vladimir Sitnikov
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 

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