On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:27:31 AM Daniel Kulp wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 3:21:54 AM Rob Davies wrote:
.....
> > I would like to propose that from now on all links to 3rd party
> > distributions or usages of Apache Camel in a 3rd party product are put
> > into (but not limited to) the following 4 categories:
> > 
> > 1. support
> 
> I think this should be "Commercial Offerings" and the "Support" page would
> list the Camel support (mailing lists, jira, etc...) and then have a
> paragraph that says something to the affect of "There are also commercial
> companies that can provide training and support for camel" that links off
> to that page.

See the CXF page for an example:

http://cxf.apache.org/support.html
 
> > 4. Tools
> 
> I'm -1  on tools.   The Tools page should just describe the tools that
> Camel provides, if any.   Beyond that, another link ("There are commercial
> tooling provided by companies...") to the above commercial offerings page.

Actually, this same idea can expand out to things like docs and such.     For 
example, the CXF docs page:

http://cxf.apache.org/docs/index.html

has an "Other Sources of Documentation and Information" section that links to 
the commercial page.      Likewise in the FAQ:

http://cxf.apache.org/faq.html

Thus, if there are other areas on the site that could potential link to 
commercial things, they could link to that page in a similar fassion.

Dan



> 
> Dan
> 
> > And there is a grace period  (till end of June 2011) to move links to
> > external information to one of these areas by the authors, else it they
> > will be deleted.
> > 
> > Here's my +1
> > 
> > On 3 May 2011, at 16:52, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> > > No, there are things that are not up to the community to decide. I drew
> > > attention when some changes were made that that was a mistake and my
> > > impression was that the point was well taken. I also mentioned that if
> > > changes won't be removed by their authors I will. That was months ago.
> > > If anything, I can be blamed for not making these changes earlier.
> > > 
> > > The Apache Camel project has a designated place to inform the users
> > > community of commercial offerings [1]. And there are also the articles
> > > [2] and tutorials [3] pages that can be used (within reason).
> > > Everything else a commercial organization has to say about offerings
> > > related to the Apache projects can be done on their site.
> > > 
> > > I hope this clarifies it,
> > > Hadrian
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Support
> > > [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Articles
> > > [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Tutorials
> > > 
> > > On May 3, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> > >> Hi
> > >> 
> > >> This post is addressed to Hadrian who has been deleting and editing
> > >> web pages from Apache Camel (today),
> > >> which seems to be related to the fact those pages had information
> > >> about Fuse.
> > >> 
> > >> I would like to call out that such actions should have been discussed
> > >> in the public at first and agreed upon by the community.
> > >> 
> > >> Most of the information has been there for a long time and its related
> > >> and relevant for Apache Camel.
> > >> And of use for people who look into what Camel is.

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