The principle of not having *unnecessary* extra dependencies is good. However 
this looks to me more like reinventing the wheel. If we write all the code in 
Camel we won't have dependencies, but we get a bloated code base, hard to 
maintain and taking forever to test. Reusing code (and having dependencies) is 
a smarter path. I like the xtext idea and that can be externalized, as it was 
tried by Oisin, iiric, at camel-extra a while ago.

My $0.02,
Hadrian



On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:

> Hi Claus,
> 
> the parser looks quite good as far as I looked into it. In any case much 
> better than regex. Before we replace the old parser we should also think 
> about tooling though. Some longer time ago I thought about using Xtext for 
> the camel DSL and also the languages. The advantage would be that it is quite 
> easy to build real good Editor for the IDE. I guess with the aproach you 
> followed this is not so easy. Of ocurse the initial effort of Xtext would be 
> a lot higher but perhaps it can pay off in the long run.
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> 
> Am 29.08.2011 10:18, schrieb Claus Ibsen:
>> Hi
>> 
>> The current Simple language in camel-core has reached its potential in
>> terms of maintenance and how easy it would be, for example to add new
>> functions and operators. Likewise the current error reporting is not
>> precise to point out where in the expression String the problem is.
>> 
>> The implementation is using regular expressions, and that is one of
>> the key problems. I think we have grown to the limit how it is to
>> maintain.
>> 
>> So I have experimented this weekend to build a prototype based on the
>> principle of a recursive descent parser
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_descent_parser
>> 
>> I at first looked into using a parser framework such as JavaCC and
>> ANTLR. The former would be able to parse the input, but building the
>> AST nodes would require to use its tree compiler, which was not maven
>> exposed. Likewise JavaCC is not really maintained anymore. People on
>> stackoverflow recommended ANTLR. It has more bells ans whistles, but
>> as far as I could see ANTLR requires JAR files in the runtime.
>> 
>> And frankly I just wanted a fairly simple code, that anybody, would be
>> able to look into and help with.
>> 
>> So I cracked up some prototype code based on the principle from that
>> wikipedia article above.
> 
> 
> 
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> Christian Schneider
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> 
> Open Source Architect
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