Sorry for being inaccurate. I didn't understood your response as you mean it (only after your last mail). I'm not an English native speaker. Please have understanding for it...
We cannot move the camel-extra sources to Apache hardware because they have dependencies which are not allowed at Apache (e.g. the camel-hibernate component use Hibernate which is LGPL v2.1). May be I have a wrong understanding what the purpose of Apache-Extra is. Do you have any pointers for me where I can verify my comprehension? Best, Christian On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d...@daniel.shahaf.name>wrote: > Christian Müller wrote on Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 19:50:04 +0200: > > This was the second time I tried to resolve this issue. Again without > > success... Before I will ask the board for other options as Daniel > > suggested (in the first mail thread about this started in July), I want > to > > All I said in the message you refer to boils down to "'Source code of > Apache projects must live on Apache hardware' is a Board-level policy" > (not just an infra policy). > > Next time, if you quote me, please make it clear what I said. From > reading your message one could think I told you to ask the board about > a mail moderation problem. > > > make sure we see no other possibilities. The status is: > > - For our Camel-extra project at Apache-extra [1] we configured the mail > > notification by sending mails to comm...@camel.apache.org for SVN > commits > > and new Issues. > > - We do not receive these mails on our mailing list. > > - The mailing list moderators also doesn't see any mails from Camel-extra > > (The mails should be sent from > camel-extra.apache-extras....@codespot.com). > > - We didn't got any notifications about bounced mails at Camel-extra and > I > > don't know somebody by Google Code who could track down this issue on > this > > side. > > - We're stuck so far... > > > > Any idea what we could do? > > > > [1] http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/ > > > > Best, > > Christian > > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Christian Müller < > > christian.muel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the invitation Dan, I will think about it... ;-) > > > I assume the mails are being trapped before they reach the list. At > Google > > > code we do not have any possibilities to check this, as far as I > know... > > > > > > Best, > > > Christian > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> On Sep 13, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d...@daniel.shahaf.name> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Christian should have emailed his dev list and asked who the > moderators > > >> > are. Having apmail volunteers do stuff the moderators can do > doesn't > > >> > scale. > > >> > > >> As a point of note: as a moderator for those lists, I don't remember > > >> seeing any messages from those lists come into the moderator queue. > > >> Otherwise I would have moderated them through like I do for > everything that > > >> comes in via nabble. (could have missed them though) We'll need > to keep > > >> an eye on it to see if the "allow" stuff actually works or if the > messages > > >> are being trapped in the spam filters prior to even getting to the > lists. > > >> That's for Christian and I (and the other moderators) to sort through > and > > >> see what happens. > > >> > > >> Another thought for Christian: you *could* volunteer to be an > additional > > >> moderator for those lists. :-) > > >> > > >> Dan > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Sam Ruby wrote on Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 21:19:00 -0400: > > >> >> On Sep 12, 2012 8:51 PM, "Gavin McDonald" <ga...@16degrees.com.au> > > >> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I do believe Sebb was correct in his actions, if no moderators > did > > >> their > > >> >> (volunteer) jobs then we’d have an awful lot of 30 second jobs to > do. > > >> >> > > >> >> +1 > > >> >> > > >> >>> Trying to filter out jobs that can be self-accomplished is not a > bad > > >> >> thing I don’t think. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> However, we only get a few of these and am only happy to help > out, so, > > >> >> done. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Gav… > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] > > >> >>> Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2012 8:05 AM > > >> >>> To: Christian Müller > > >> >>> Cc: in...@apache.org; Sam Ruby; issues-ow...@camel.apache.org; > > >> >> commits-ow...@camel.apache.org > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Extras notifications (was: Disable GitHub > > >> commenting > > >> >> [httpd]) > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> And now it looks like Infra is punting their 30 seconds of work > back > > >> to > > >> >> you (the Jira is closed/wontfix already). "A job for the > moderator". > > >> So now > > >> >> we have to contact them (cc'd). And have one of them send the > email. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Good Luck, > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -g > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Christian Müller < > > >> >> christian.muel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I'm not a moderator, so I filled a JIRA [1]. > > >> >>> Thanks again for helping Greg. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5268 > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Best, > > >> >>> Christian > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I meant you, Christian. :-) > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I'm not an ezmlm expert, so maybe an infra person can correct me > if > > >> this > > >> >> is wrong, but I think you can send an email like: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> to: commits-allow-camel-extra.apache-extras.org= > > >> >> codespot....@camel.apache.org > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I believe that you need to be one of the moderators to remotely > change > > >> >> the allow list like that. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Worst case, file an INFRA ticket to tweak the allow list on your > two > > >> >> mailing lists. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Cheers, > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -g > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Christian Müller < > > >> >> christian.muel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Sorry, I only respond to Greg. Forwarding my response to INFRA. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > >> >>> From: Christian Müller <christian.muel...@gmail.com> > > >> >>> Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 PM > > >> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Extras notifications (was: Disable GitHub > > >> commenting > > >> >> [httpd]) > > >> >>> To: Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Thanks for the fast reply. > > >> >>> By saying "you", do you mean me or INFRA? I don't know how I > could do > > >> >> this, but I would be happy to do it... > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Best, > > >> >>> Christian > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> In the administration screens, it states what email address will > be > > >> used > > >> >> for those notifications: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> camel-extra.apache-extras....@codespot.com > > >> >>> > > >> >>> You can add that to the "allow" list for issues@camel.apache.organd > > >> >> comm...@camel.apache.org. That should let the notifications > through. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Cheers, > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -g > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Christian Müller < > > >> >> christian.muel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I apologize for hijacking this thread, but we have similar > challenges > > >> >> with our Camel-Extra project [1] at Apache-Extra. > > >> >>> - We do not get any notification on our mailing list is somebody > > >> opens an > > >> >> Issue there. > > >> >>> - We do not get any commit notification on our mailing list. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> It would be nice if we could improve this in the future. I already > > >> >> configured the forward possibilities they offer, but it looks like > we > > >> >> (Apache) reject the mails. I do not get any error messages from > Google > > >> >> code. I have no idea how to proceed... > > >> >>> > > >> >>> [1] http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/ > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Thanks for your patience, > > >> >>> Christian > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -- > > >> >>> Error! Filename not specified. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -- > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -- > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -- > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Daniel Kulp > > >> dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog > > >> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --