Well a KAR archive was created for this exact scenario. So if we do this for std. jars, why would we need kars then?
2013/1/22 Charles Moulliard <ch0...@gmail.com> > On 22/01/13 11:42, Achim Nierbeck wrote: > >> hmm, afairc the deployment of a feature.xml embedded in a jar was meant to >> work this way. It was supposed to install just the feature itself without >> starting it right away. This was planned to work this way since it might >> result in "Downloading the complete internet" if someone isn't careful >> with >> the features description. We need to check the mailinglist archive on how >> we decided. >> >> regards, Achim >> >> >> 2013/1/22 Charles Moulliard <ch0...@gmail.com> >> >> Hi Claus, >>> >>> Procedure to deploy camel example with this instruction install -s >>> feature:mvn:org.apache.camel/**camel-example-sql/2.11-**SNAPSHOT works >>> fine now >>> with that modification (https://issues.apache.org/** >>> jira/browse/KARAF-2134<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-2134> >>> ) >>> EXCEPTED that the feature content (= bundles) are not installed. >>> Guillaume >>> has created a ticket to resolve this issue I think so (?) >>> >>> Remark : Don't think that drag/drop the bundle of camel-example-sql in >>> deploy directory will work for the reason explained before (but you could >>> make a test) >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Charles >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Charles Moulliard <ch0...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Works better. Nevertheless the features defined in the features file >>>>> deployed as a bundle are not deployed. Here is an example >>>>> >>>>> [ 127] [Installed ] [ ] [ 80] camel-example-sql >>>>> (2.11.0.SNAPSHOT) // CONTAINS FEATURES.XML FILE >>>>> karaf@root> listurl >>>>> Loaded URI >>>>> true >>>>> bundle://118.0:0/META-INF/org.**apache.karaf.shell.features/** >>>>> features.xml >>>>> >>>> <-- >>>> >>>>> WELL DEPLOYED >>>>> >>>>> Definition of the features camel-example-sql >>>>> >>>>> karaf@root> features:info camel-example-sql >>>>> Description of camel-example-sql 2.11-SNAPSHOT feature >>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- >>>>> Feature has no configuration >>>>> Feature has no configuration files >>>>> Feature depends on: >>>>> camel 2.11-SNAPSHOT >>>>> camel-spring 2.11-SNAPSHOT >>>>> camel-sql 2.11-SNAPSHOT >>>>> Feature contains followed bundles: >>>>> mvn:org.apache.derby/derby/10.**9.1.0 <http://10.9.1.0> >>>>> mvn:mvn:commons-pool/commons-**pool/1.6 >>>>> >>>>> mvn:mvn:org.apache.servicemix.**bundles/org.apache.servicemix.** >>> bundles.commons-dbcp/1.4_3 >>> >>>> mvn:org.apache.camel/camel-**example-sql/2.11-SNAPSHOT >>>>> >>>>> Excepted camel-example-sql, the others are not deployed/installed >>>>> >>>>> Hi Charles >>>> >>>> Thanks for testing the karaf changes. >>>> So are you saying that installing the example using the features: in >>>> the url handler now works better. >>>> But doesn't work fully yet? >>>> >>>> So are you saying for example that bundles like commons-pool / derby >>>> JDBC driver etc. which >>>> is listed in the features.xml file is not installed? >>>> >>>> Also did you try installing the example by dropping the JAR into the >>>> deploy directory? >>>> >>>> Though I assume you have prior to that installed camel 2.11 in karaf >>>> beforehand? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Raised and fixed >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/KARAF-2134<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-2134> >>>>>> The workaround is to use the plain http url instead of the mvn url. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Charles Moulliard <ch0...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Convention is : META-INF + "/" + one directory where directory = >>>>>>> "org.apache.karaf.shell.**features" + "/" + "*.xml" where * >>>>>>> >>>>>> corresponds >>> >>>> to >>>> >>>>> a >>>>>> >>>>>>> features.xml file >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Charles may have pointed out about the naming of the features >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> file. >>> >>>> Should it be a file in META-INF which has this long name with all >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>> >>>>> dots? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or should it be a features.xml file in META-INF/org/apache/... eg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> deep >>>> >>>>> down in a sub dir >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Claus Ibsen < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> claus.ib...@gmail.com >>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Guillaume Nodet < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> gno...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you talking about the features deployer ? >>>>>>>>>> Karaf has it already. You can use osgi:install feature:mvn:xxx >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or >>>> >>>>> drop >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> features file in the deploy directory, or deploy any bundle >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> which >>> >>>> has >>>>>> >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> META-INF/org.apache.karaf.**shell.features/*.xml file inside. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks I did not know about that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I looked in the docs at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/**manual/latest-2.3.x/users-** >>> guide/provisioning.html<http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest-2.3.x/users-guide/provisioning.html> >>> >>>> And didn't find any reference about that META-INF dir. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So I tried this on Camel trunk. But didn't have the luck yet. >>>>>>>>> Notice how the bundle get installed with 2.11-SNAPSHOT as its >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> name. I >>>> >>>>> guess maybe I do the install command wrong. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> davsclaus:/opt/apache-karaf-2.**3.0$ bin/karaf >>>>>>>>> __ __ ____ >>>>>>>>> / //_/____ __________ _/ __/ >>>>>>>>> / ,< / __ `/ ___/ __ `/ /_ >>>>>>>>> / /| |/ /_/ / / / /_/ / __/ >>>>>>>>> /_/ |_|\__,_/_/ \__,_/_/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache Karaf (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hit '<tab>' for a list of available commands >>>>>>>>> and '[cmd] --help' for help on a specific command. >>>>>>>>> Hit '<ctrl-d>' or 'osgi:shutdown' to shutdown Karaf. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> karaf@root> features: >>>>>>>>> features:addurl features:chooseurl >>>>>>>>> features:info features:install >>>>>>>>> features:list features:listrepositories >>>>>>>>> features:listurl features:listversions >>>>>>>>> features:refreshurl features:removerepository >>>>>>>>> features:removeurl features:uninstall >>>>>>>>> karaf@root> features:chooseurl camel 2.11-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>> adding feature url >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> mvn:org.apache.camel.karaf/**apache-camel/2.11-SNAPSHOT/** >>> xml/features >>> >>>> karaf@root> osgi:install >>>>>>>>> feature:mvn:org.apache.camel/**camel-example-sql/2.11-**SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>> Bundle ID: 54 >>>>>>>>> karaf@root> la >>>>>>>>> START LEVEL 100 , List Threshold: 0 >>>>>>>>> ID State Blueprint Level Name >>>>>>>>> [ 0] [Active ] [ ] [ 0] System Bundle >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (4.0.3) >>> >>>> [ 1] [Active ] [ ] [ 5] OPS4J Pax Url - mvn: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (1.3.5) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [ 2] [Active ] [ ] [ 5] OPS4J Pax Url - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrap: >>> >>>> (1.3.5) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [ 3] [Active ] [ ] [ 8] OPS4J Pax Logging - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Service >>>>>> >>>>>>> (1.7.0) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 4] [Active ] [ ] [ 8] OPS4J Pax Logging - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> API >>>> >>>>> (1.7.0) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 5] [Active ] [ ] [ 10] Apache Felix >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Configuration >>>>>> >>>>>>> Admin Service (1.4.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 6] [Active ] [ ] [ 11] Apache Felix File >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Install >>>> >>>>> (3.2.6) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 7] [Active ] [Created ] [ 20] Apache Aries >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blueprint >>> >>>> Core >>>>>> >>>>>>> (1.0.1) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 8] [Active ] [ ] [ 20] Apache Aries Util >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (1.0.0) >>>> >>>>> [ 9] [Active ] [ ] [ 20] Apache Aries Proxy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> API >>> >>>> (1.0.0) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 10] [Active ] [ ] [ 20] ASM all classes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (4.0) >>> >>>> [ 11] [Active ] [ ] [ 20] Apache Aries >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blueprint >>> >>>> API >>>>>> >>>>>>> (1.0.0) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 12] [Active ] [ ] [ 20] Apache Aries Proxy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Service >>>>>> >>>>>>> (1.0.0) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 13] [Active ] [Created ] [ 20] Apache Aries >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blueprint CM >>>> >>>>> (1.0.0) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 14] [Active ] [Created ] [ 25] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shell >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> Console (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 15] [Active ] [Created ] [ 28] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deployer >>>> >>>>> :: Blueprint (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 16] [Active ] [Created ] [ 28] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deployer >>>> >>>>> :: Spring (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 17] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shell >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> SSH >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (2.3.0) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 18] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Management >>>>>> >>>>>>> (2.3.0) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 19] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shell >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> Various Commands (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 20] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Features >>>> >>>>> :: Core (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 21] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shell >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> Log Commands (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 22] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Features >>>> >>>>> :: Command (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 23] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Diagnostic >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: Management (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 24] [Active ] [ ] [ 30] Apache Mina SSHD :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Core >>>> >>>>> (0.8.0) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ 25] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deployer >>>> >>>>> :: Wrap Non OSGi Jar (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 26] [Active ] [ ] [ 30] Apache MINA Core >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (2.0.7) >>>> >>>>> [ 27] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Admin >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> Command (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 28] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Diagnostic >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: Command (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 29] [Active ] [ ] [ 30] Apache Aries JMX >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Core >>> >>>> (1.0.1) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [ 30] [Active ] [ ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Diagnostic >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: Core (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 31] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Admin >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> Management (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 32] [Active ] [ ] [ 30] Apache Aries JMX API >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (1.0.0) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [ 33] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Diagnostic >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: Common (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 34] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shell >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> Development Commands (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 35] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deployer >>>> >>>>> :: Features (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 36] [Active ] [ ] [ 30] Apache Aries JMX >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blueprint >>>>>> >>>>>>> API (1.0.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 37] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: Jaas >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :: >>>> >>>>> Command (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 38] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: JAAS >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :: >>>> >>>>> Modules (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 39] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shell >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> OSGi Commands (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 40] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Features >>>> >>>>> :: Management (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 41] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shell >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> PackageAdmin Commands (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 42] [Active ] [ ] [ 30] Apache Aries JMX >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blueprint >>>>>> >>>>>>> Core (1.0.1) >>>>>>>>> [ 43] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Admin >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> Core (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 44] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deployer >>>> >>>>> :: Karaf Archive (.kar) (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 45] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: JAAS >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :: >>>> >>>>> Config (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 46] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shell >>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>>> ConfigAdmin Commands (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 47] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Management >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: MBeans :: System (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 48] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Management >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: MBeans :: Bundles (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 49] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Management >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: MBeans :: Services (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 50] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Management >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: MBeans :: Config (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 51] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Management >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: MBeans :: Log (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 52] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Management >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: MBeans :: Packages (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 53] [Active ] [Created ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Management >>>>>> >>>>>>> :: MBeans :: Dev (2.3.0) >>>>>>>>> [ 54] [Installed ] [ ] [ 80] 2.11-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (0.0.0) >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> And the example contains the features.xml in that directory. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> davsclaus:~/workspace/camel/**examples/camel-example-sql$ tar -tf >>>>>>>>> target/camel-example-sql-2.11-**SNAPSHOT.jar >>>>>>>>> META-INF/MANIFEST.MF >>>>>>>>> META-INF/ >>>>>>>>> META-INF/DEPENDENCIES >>>>>>>>> META-INF/LICENSE >>>>>>>>> META-INF/LICENSE.txt >>>>>>>>> META-INF/NOTICE >>>>>>>>> META-INF/NOTICE.txt >>>>>>>>> META-INF/maven/ >>>>>>>>> META-INF/maven/org.apache.**camel/ >>>>>>>>> META-INF/maven/org.apache.**camel/camel-example-sql/ >>>>>>>>> META-INF/maven/org.apache.**camel/camel-example-sql/pom.** >>>>>>>>> properties >>>>>>>>> META-INF/maven/org.apache.**camel/camel-example-sql/pom.**xml >>>>>>>>> META-INF/org/ >>>>>>>>> META-INF/org/apache/ >>>>>>>>> META-INF/org/apache/karaf/ >>>>>>>>> META-INF/org/apache/karaf/**shell/ >>>>>>>>> META-INF/org/apache/karaf/**shell/features/ >>>>>>>>> META-INF/org/apache/karaf/**shell/features/features.xml >>>>>>>>> META-INF/spring/ >>>>>>>>> META-INF/spring/camel-context.**xml >>>>>>>>> log4j.properties >>>>>>>>> org/ >>>>>>>>> org/apache/ >>>>>>>>> org/apache/camel/ >>>>>>>>> org/apache/camel/example/ >>>>>>>>> org/apache/camel/example/sql/ >>>>>>>>> org/apache/camel/example/sql/**DatabaseBean.class >>>>>>>>> org/apache/camel/example/sql/**OrderBean.class >>>>>>>>> sql.properties >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Achim Nierbeck < >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bcanh...@googlemail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Clause, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks for summing up what we talked of on IRC :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think it could be even easier. >>>>>>>>>>> We could add a bundle tracker for features.xml files that will >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> install >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> those with the features service. >>>>>>>>>>> For this we don't even need a special syntax of the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> osgi:install >>> >>>> url >>>>>> >>>>>>> (and actually if you want a url-handler to take control of it >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you >>>> >>>>> need >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> osgi:install features:mvn:xxxx) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Something like the web-extender of pax-web could be done, and >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>> >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> quite easy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/18 Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So when people get started with Apache Karaf and Camel (eg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> not >>> >>>> going >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> down the full ESB with SMX) then I would like to make that >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> much >>>> >>>>> easier. >>>>>>>>>>>> For example to tell them how easy you can install some of >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the >>> >>>> examples >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> we provided with Apache Camel >>>>>>>>>>>> http://camel.apache.org/**examples<http://camel.apache.org/examples> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Many of these examples have been prepared for OSGi and have >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> embedded >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> features.xml file, so in theory they are ready to install. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Though I could not find a way to install the example in >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Karaf >>> >>>> without >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pain. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> eg I want to do >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> cd apache-karaf-2.3.0 >>>>>>>>>>>> bin/karaf >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> features:choose camel 2.11.0 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> // and how to install my example, such as camel-example-sql >>>>>>>>>>>> ????? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The camel features does not contain examples. >>>>>>>>>>>> And frankly I would like Karaf to be able to install a >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> bundle >>> >>>> but >>>> >>>>> use >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the features.xml file that is included in the JAR in the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> root >>> >>>> classpath. (Or some other directory if Karaf has a standard >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>> >>>>> that). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe I can type, eg notice the :feature in the command >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> osgi:install >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> mvn:feature:org.apache/camel/**camel-example-sql/2.11.0 >>>>>> >>>>>>> Or some other way to install it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Then people just need to download Karaf, and they can >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> install >>> >>>> Camel >>>>>> >>>>>>> and the examples from Maven. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now I want them to be able to do this for their custom >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> application >>>>>> >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> well, so they can do >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> osgi:install >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> file:feature:/dev/myproject/**target/myapp-1.0.jar >>> >>>> Or something like that. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So how can we make it easier for people to install and try >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Camel >>>> >>>>> examples in vanilla Apache Karaf containers? >>>>>>>>>>>> And how can we make it easier for people to install their >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> own >>> >>>> applications in vanilla Apache Karaf containers, >>>>>>>>>>>> which uses features.xml file to declare their dependencies. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And NO they do NOT want to use KAR files or some Karaf >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> specific. >>>> >>>>> Their >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> applications should be plain JARs >>>>>>>>>>>> that can also run outside Karaf as well. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen >>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc. >>>>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat >>>>>>>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus >>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC >>>>>>>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web >>>>>>>>>>> <http://wiki.ops4j.org/**display/paxweb/Pax+Web/<http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Committer & >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Project Lead >>>>>>>>>>> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin < >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/**display/PAXVAADIN/Home<http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Commiter & Project Lead >>>>>>>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/**> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> FuseSource, Integration everywhere >>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen >>>>>>>>> ----------------- >>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc. >>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat >>>>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com >>>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >>>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen >>>>>>>> ----------------- >>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc. >>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat >>>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com >>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus >>>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Charles Moulliard >>>>>>> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat) >>>>>>> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>> FuseSource, Integration everywhere >>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Charles Moulliard >>>>> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat) >>>>> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Claus Ibsen >>>> ----------------- >>>> Red Hat, Inc. >>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat >>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com >>>> Web: http://fusesource.com >>>> Twitter: davsclaus >>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Charles Moulliard >>> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat) >>> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com >>> >>> >> >> - To be consistant with what we have done, If we can deploy a features > xml file using a KAR archive then we should be able to do the same thing > with a bundle. > > - I agree on your remark that there is a risk as we cannot easily > determine if the feature xml files contains a few bundles + configuration > files OR the full list of camel bundles > -- Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer & Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter & Project Lead blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
