Interestingly I could not find any discussion (or veto) going on by the AMQ dev forum about replacing the old webconsole with hawtio, strange...
The only thing I found was the JIRA ticket about this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4594 Babak Johan Edstrom-2 wrote > Benjamin, it has been discussed in AMQ as well. > > http://irclogs.dankulp.com/logs/irclogger_log/activemq/?date=2013-11-13,Wed > http://irclogs.dankulp.com/logs/irclogger_log/activemq/?date=2013-10-25,Fri > > > On Dec 1, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Benjamin Graf < > benjamin.graf@ > > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> BTW why is hawtio a problem for Camel for political reason? It is yet the >> official front end for ActiveMQ. Is this seen different in different >> Apache >> projects??? >> >> Best regards >> Benjamin >> >> On 01.12.2013 17:58, Babak Vahdat wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Let me sincerly tell you my personal opinion. To me the vetos both Dan & >>> Hadrian have started in this thread has nothing really technical in it >>> and >>> is just POLITICAL justifications as Talend representatives. >>> >>> Why not let the community benefit from a ASL2 licensed software? >>> >>> @Dan in open source community there is nothing ANYBODY should get the >>> control over because the open source community doesn't need a BOSS as >>> you >>> like to be: >>> >>> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Getting-closer-with-Java7-tp5692627p5713781.html >>> >>> If there's any improvement you see just make a pull request like ALL >>> OTHER >>> people in the community, SPECIALLY for: >>> >>> "links popping up and icons and such that promote something else" >>> >>> You did mention about in this thread. BTW where did you exactly spot >>> those >>> icons & pop-ups? >>> >>> Babak >>> >>> >>> > dkulp@ > wrote >>>> On Dec 1, 2013, at 3:46 AM, Rob Davies < >>>> rajdavies@ >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> dkulp@ >>>> wrote >>>>>> Having no way for this PMC to control the display of the Camel route >>>>>> *IS* >>>>>> a technical justification. If we as a PMC wanted to remove columns, >>>>>> add >>>>>> new columns for new features, change the order of stuff, etc…. *WE* >>>>>> have >>>>>> no way to do so. >>>>>> >>>>>> Having no way to change the branding of what is displayed *IS* a >>>>>> technical >>>>>> justification. We cannot have links popping up and icons and such >>>>>> that >>>>>> promote something else. >>>>>> >>>>>> Having no way to remove all the “cruft” that is unrelated to Camel >>>>>> *IS* >>>>>> a >>>>>> technical justification. Claus’s screen shot on the wiki has an >>>>>> AcitveMQ >>>>>> tab, Wiki tab, etc… which would need to be removed if the goal is to >>>>>> have >>>>>> a Camel route display. >>>>>> >>>>>> That’s all technical justification. This needs to be removed until >>>>>> they >>>>>> can all be addressed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh… and the maven goal cannot be camel:hawtio. It would need to be >>>>>> camel:run-webconsole or similar to remove the branding part from that >>>>>> as >>>>>> well. >>>>> So any 3rd party tool that aids developers, can't be run as a maven >>>>> target >>>>> unless its completely branded and controlled by the Camel PMC is the >>>>> stance >>>>> you are taking. >>>> If the maven plugin is part of Camel and it’s stated purpose it to >>>> present >>>> *Camel* to the user, then yes. That BETTER be under the PMC’s >>>> complete >>>> control and influence. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Daniel Kulp >>>> dkulp@ >>>> - http://dankulp.com/blog >>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Re-git-commit-CAMEL-7023-Added-hawtio-goal-to-camel-maven-plugin-tp5744029p5744136.html >>> Sent from the Camel Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Re-git-commit-CAMEL-7023-Added-hawtio-goal-to-camel-maven-plugin-tp5744029p5744142.html Sent from the Camel Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
