Thanks Raul -

I’ll finish up the PR for https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6132 
ASAP.  The changes in this one also help with the OSGi tests - I think I’ve got 
it so they don’t leave Karaf instances hanging around anymore.  


> On Mar 30, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Raul Kripalani <ra...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Changes are pushed now. First commit with lambdas done too ;-)
> 
> Gotta keep an eye on Jenkins tonight.
> 
> BTW - OSGi Karaf tests were 100% OK. Thanks for the script, Claus.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> *Raúl Kripalani*
> PMC & Committer @ Apache Ignite, Apache Camel | Integration, Big Data and
> Messaging Engineer
> http://about.me/raulkripalani | http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani
> Blog: raul.io | twitter: @raulvk <https://twitter.com/raulvk>
> 
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Raul Kripalani <r...@evosent.com> wrote:
>>> Yep, today, hopefully.
>>> 
>>> Faced a few complications with the Camel Blueprint and Camel Spring
>>> bundles, which were inlining other modules via the bundle plugin.
>>> 
>> 
>> Yeah there is some ant tasks that copy the source of camel-core-osgi
>> and camel-core-xml AFAIR.
>> There were OSGi problems back then to make those as individual bundles.
>> So having it all in the same bundle made it work.
>> 
>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Raúl.
>>> On 30 Mar 2016 16:06, "Quinn Stevenson" <qu...@pronoia-solutions.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Any updates on when this will be merged?  I have a couple of PRs I’m
>>>> working on that this effects.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Quinn Stevenson <
>>>> qu...@pronoia-solutions.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the JARs that will not be bundles - what do we want in the
>>>> MANIFEST.MF?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:claus.ib...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Raul Kripalani <ra...@apache.org
>>>> <mailto:ra...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:claus.ib...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can we flip the switch so you have to enable it on the maven
>> modules
>>>>>>>> that you want to be an osgi bundle. I am asking because people who
>> are
>>>>>>>> not using OSGi should really not see camel.osgi.skip=true in the
>>>>>>>> examples / camel-spring-boot-starter etc.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> They should be clean and without any osgi stuff.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also I would rather make it explicit that this maven module is
>> built
>>>>>>>> as an osgi bundle if it has camel.osgi=true.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I see your point. What I'll do is make the activation rely on
>> property
>>>>>>> value comparison rather than property presence, e.g.
>>>> camel.osgi=true/false.
>>>>>>> That way, we can set camel.osgi=true on components/pom.xml, and
>> exclude
>>>>>>> only the few components that are not OSGi by setting
>> camel.osgi=false
>>>> on
>>>>>>> their POMs.
>>>>>>> For the examples, we can set camel.osgi=false on examples/pom.xml,
>> and
>>>> only
>>>>>>> set the property to true on those examples that are meant to be
>>>> bundles.
>>>>>>> Let's play with value rather than presence/absence, because once you
>>>> set a
>>>>>>> property up the chain in the Maven reactor, I don't think you can
>>>> unset it
>>>>>>> (or can you?).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Although... Approaching it from a different angle, it may be worth
>> to
>>>>>>> explicitly define the build plugins in each example POM. Thus we can
>>>>>>> attempt to make the example "self-contained".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yeah would love to make the examples self container without a parent.
>>>>>> And then they should import the Camel BOM instead (aka camel parent).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then end users can just copy those and adjust them as needed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure if we have tried this in the past and had trouble with the
>>>>>> release build?
>>>>>> And there is 50+ examples so a fair bit of work to migrate. But we
>>>>>> have a big community so people can help with this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That would take more work, so I won't do it now, but just wanted to
>>>> hear
>>>>>>> your thoughts.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yeah sounds good.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani*
>>>>>>> PMC & Committer @ Apache Ignite, Apache Camel | Integration, Big
>> Data
>>>> and
>>>>>>> Messaging Engineer
>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani <http://about.me/raulkripalani> |
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani <
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani>
>>>>>>> Blog: raul.io <http://raul.io/> | twitter: @raulvk <
>>>> https://twitter.com/raulvk <https://twitter.com/raulvk>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>> http://davsclaus.com <http://davsclaus.com/> @davsclaus
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>>>> https://www.manning.com/ibsen2>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
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>> 

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