Hi

Can we please move the discussion about Java 8 and 11 to another
thread, and keep this focused on the subj.


On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:34 AM Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think for the average the enterprise JDK user they may still use JDK
> 8 for a long time.
> If we start the Camel 3.x, we still need to maintain the Camel 2.x
> branch for a while.
> It could be great, if we can provide a roadmap of JDK8 support time,
>
> BTW,  Spring has good backward compatibility for JDK 6,7,8[1]
> It could be useful if we can still provide the backward compatibility
> in Camel 3.x and if we cannot do that we need to drop a line for it.
>
> [1]https://spring.io/blog/2015/04/03/how-spring-achieves-compatibility-with-java-6-7-and-8
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:19 PM Andrea Cosentino
> <ancosen1...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > You're right, but if we always think about how much effort is needed to 
> > switch to a new and different JDK, we will never move from JDK 8.
> >
> > I'd like to have other feedback on this by the way.
> >
> > For the compatibility matrix we need to it to the documentation too.
> >
> > --
> > Andrea Cosentino
> > ----------------------------------
> > Apache Camel PMC Chair
> > Apache Karaf Committer
> > Apache Servicemix PMC Member
> > Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com
> > Twitter: @oscerd2
> > Github: oscerd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, December 13, 2018, 8:14:04 AM GMT+1, Onder SEZGIN 
> > <ond...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Almost +1, (as points below affects the idea of where to using any camel 
> > versions and even contributing because for example;
> > if you use (let's say JDK 8) and have come across a problem and solved in 
> > your local branch 2.X and submitted and if Camel 3.X would require JDK 10 
> > as the base minimum version, it will create a regression effort, in terms 
> > of building and executing on JDK 10. would it slow down the contribution 
> > efforts? )
> >
> > Can we also discuss the matters of compatibility matrix? Maybe having one 
> > like in starters guide or in some other document.
> > I know we have pages [1] [2]
> >
> > [1] http://camel.apache.org/what-are-the-dependencies.html
> > [2] 
> > https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/master/docs/user-manual/en/camel-jar-dependencies.adoc
> >
> > Having such matrix considering other integration platforms would be helpful 
> > IMHO.
> > Such as Spring Boot, Karaf, CDI etcs...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 3:12 PM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:11 PM Andrea Cosentino <ancosen1...@yahoo.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It makes sense to set a date.
> > >>
> > >> Once we checked the documentation and resolved doubts,
> > >> I propose Wed 19th Dec in the morning.
> > >>
> > >> Does it work for all?
> > >>
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Andrea Cosentino
> > >> ----------------------------------
> > >> Apache Camel PMC Chair
> > >> Apache Karaf Committer
> > >> Apache Servicemix PMC Member
> > >> Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com
> > >> Twitter: @oscerd2
> > >> Github: oscerd
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 1:09:05 PM GMT+1, Claus Ibsen 
> > >> <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 12:14 PM Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Sounds good to me.
> > >> >
> > >> > Fwiw, I've been working on the camel build those past days, trying to
> > >> > improve things a bit.  I'll report when I have something in a correct 
> > >> > shape.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> What if we set a date when we make the change? For example Friday 14th
> > >> December or Monday 17th eg?
> > >>
> > >> And we would need to update the contributing document
> > >> with a section about that Camel 2.x is now located in the 2.x branch,
> > >> and that master is for 3.x.
> > >>
> > >> I wonder if this change will affect the current release procedure of
> > >> Camel 2.x? For example when we need to do next round of patch releases
> > >> for 2.x and also the new 2.24.0 release,
> > >> is there something we need to update our release guides at
> > >> http://camel.apache.org/release-guide.html
> > >>
> > >> Gregor if you are listening, is there something on-top-of your head
> > >> you can think of?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Guillaume
> > >> >
> > >> > Le mer. 12 déc. 2018 à 11:54, Andrea Cosentino
> > >> > <ancosen1...@yahoo.com.invalid> a écrit :
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hello,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Since we started work of some cleanup about Camel 3 and it's already
> > >> > > aligned with master, I'd like to ask what do you think about 
> > >> > > switching the
> > >> > > master to 3.x and create a 2.x branch for the activities on Camel 
> > >> > > 2.x..
> > >> > >
> > >> > > What do you think about this?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Andrea Cosentino
> > >> > > ----------------------------------
> > >> > > Apache Camel PMC Chair
> > >> > > Apache Karaf Committer
> > >> > > Apache Servicemix PMC Member
> > >> > > Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com
> > >> > > Twitter: @oscerd2
> > >> > > Github: oscerd
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > ------------------------
> > >> > Guillaume Nodet
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Claus Ibsen
> > >> -----------------
> > >> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> > >> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Claus Ibsen
> > > -----------------
> > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> > >



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