+1, let's start it. Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: 姜宁willem On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:32 PM Andrea Cosentino <ancosen1...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > > If it works for everyone the next steps should be: > > - On Wednesday morning I'll send an email with an alert about the creation of > 2.x branch from master > - I'll move sanbox/camel-3.x to master shortly after pushing 2.x > > Does this work for all? Thoughts? > > -- > Andrea Cosentino > ---------------------------------- > Apache Camel PMC Chair > Apache Karaf Committer > Apache Servicemix PMC Member > Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com > Twitter: @oscerd2 > Github: oscerd > > > > > > > On Friday, December 14, 2018, 3:01:01 PM GMT+1, Andrea Cosentino > <ancosen1...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote: > > > > > > Sure. Let me open a different one. > > -- > Andrea Cosentino > ---------------------------------- > Apache Camel PMC Chair > Apache Karaf Committer > Apache Servicemix PMC Member > Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com > Twitter: @oscerd2 > Github: oscerd > > > > > > > On Friday, December 14, 2018, 2:59:22 PM GMT+1, Claus Ibsen > <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > Can we please move the discussion about Java 8 and 11 to another > thread, and keep this focused on the subj. > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:34 AM Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I think for the average the enterprise JDK user they may still use JDK > > 8 for a long time. > > If we start the Camel 3.x, we still need to maintain the Camel 2.x > > branch for a while. > > It could be great, if we can provide a roadmap of JDK8 support time, > > > > BTW, Spring has good backward compatibility for JDK 6,7,8[1] > > It could be useful if we can still provide the backward compatibility > > in Camel 3.x and if we cannot do that we need to drop a line for it. > > > > [1]https://spring.io/blog/2015/04/03/how-spring-achieves-compatibility-with-java-6-7-and-8 > > > > Willem Jiang > > > > Twitter: willemjiang > > Weibo: 姜宁willem > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:19 PM Andrea Cosentino > > <ancosen1...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > You're right, but if we always think about how much effort is needed to > > > switch to a new and different JDK, we will never move from JDK 8. > > > > > > I'd like to have other feedback on this by the way. > > > > > > For the compatibility matrix we need to it to the documentation too. > > > > > > -- > > > Andrea Cosentino > > > ---------------------------------- > > > Apache Camel PMC Chair > > > Apache Karaf Committer > > > Apache Servicemix PMC Member > > > Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com > > > Twitter: @oscerd2 > > > Github: oscerd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, December 13, 2018, 8:14:04 AM GMT+1, Onder SEZGIN > > > <ond...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost +1, (as points below affects the idea of where to using any camel > > > versions and even contributing because for example; > > > if you use (let's say JDK 8) and have come across a problem and solved in > > > your local branch 2.X and submitted and if Camel 3.X would require JDK 10 > > > as the base minimum version, it will create a regression effort, in terms > > > of building and executing on JDK 10. would it slow down the contribution > > > efforts? ) > > > > > > Can we also discuss the matters of compatibility matrix? Maybe having one > > > like in starters guide or in some other document. > > > I know we have pages [1] [2] > > > > > > [1] http://camel.apache.org/what-are-the-dependencies.html > > > [2] > > > https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/master/docs/user-manual/en/camel-jar-dependencies.adoc > > > > > > Having such matrix considering other integration platforms would be > > > helpful IMHO. > > > Such as Spring Boot, Karaf, CDI etcs... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 3:12 PM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:11 PM Andrea Cosentino > > > > <ancosen1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> It makes sense to set a date. > > > >> > > > >> Once we checked the documentation and resolved doubts, > > > >> I propose Wed 19th Dec in the morning. > > > >> > > > >> Does it work for all? > > > >> > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > >> Thanks. > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Andrea Cosentino > > > >> ---------------------------------- > > > >> Apache Camel PMC Chair > > > >> Apache Karaf Committer > > > >> Apache Servicemix PMC Member > > > >> Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com > > > >> Twitter: @oscerd2 > > > >> Github: oscerd > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 1:09:05 PM GMT+1, Claus Ibsen > > > >> <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 12:14 PM Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > Sounds good to me. > > > >> > > > > >> > Fwiw, I've been working on the camel build those past days, trying to > > > >> > improve things a bit. I'll report when I have something in a > > > >> > correct shape. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> What if we set a date when we make the change? For example Friday 14th > > > >> December or Monday 17th eg? > > > >> > > > >> And we would need to update the contributing document > > > >> with a section about that Camel 2.x is now located in the 2.x branch, > > > >> and that master is for 3.x. > > > >> > > > >> I wonder if this change will affect the current release procedure of > > > >> Camel 2.x? For example when we need to do next round of patch releases > > > >> for 2.x and also the new 2.24.0 release, > > > >> is there something we need to update our release guides at > > > >> http://camel.apache.org/release-guide.html > > > >> > > > >> Gregor if you are listening, is there something on-top-of your head > > > >> you can think of? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Guillaume > > > >> > > > > >> > Le mer. 12 déc. 2018 à 11:54, Andrea Cosentino > > > >> > <ancosen1...@yahoo.com.invalid> a écrit : > > > >> > > > > >> > > Hello, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Since we started work of some cleanup about Camel 3 and it's > > > >> > > already > > > >> > > aligned with master, I'd like to ask what do you think about > > > >> > > switching the > > > >> > > master to 3.x and create a 2.x branch for the activities on Camel > > > >> > > 2.x.. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > What do you think about this? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Thanks > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -- > > > >> > > Andrea Cosentino > > > >> > > ---------------------------------- > > > >> > > Apache Camel PMC Chair > > > >> > > Apache Karaf Committer > > > >> > > Apache Servicemix PMC Member > > > >> > > Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com > > > >> > > Twitter: @oscerd2 > > > >> > > Github: oscerd > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > ------------------------ > > > >> > Guillaume Nodet > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Claus Ibsen > > > >> ----------------- > > > >> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > > > >> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Claus Ibsen > > > > ----------------- > > > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > > > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > > > > > > > > -- > Claus Ibsen > ----------------- > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
