So, the primary reason I'd like to keep the fastinstall profile is because
I bisect Camel often to find which commit introduced a certain bug, test
failure or behavior. If we remove this profile, then I would have to adjust
my bisect script so that in newer versions it uses "mvn -Dquickly" and in
versions before this patch it would use "mvn -Pfastinstall" ... and I would
have to, somehow, detect from when to start using one or the other (I think
it would be difficult).

I haven't thought about adding the profile to my user's settings.xml file,
but maybe that would do the trick ... I'll give it a try.

Regardless of that, the lack of fastinstall profile is not a blocker from
my end. I think this is a good improvement.

Kind regards

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 11:30 AM Peter Palaga <ppal...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 23/06/2023 09:38, Otavio Rodolfo Piske wrote:
> > +1 from me.
> >
> > All in all I think this is a good thing. Our build takes _way_ too long,
> so
> > any effort that can reduce this time is welcome. Also, I like that this
> > would make the build similar to CEQ. Ideally, in the future, we could
> also
> > apply the same pattern to both CSB and CKC, so that we have an uniform
> > build process across the board.
> >
> > That said, I have one (hopefully) simple request* in all of this: for us
> to
> > retain the fastinstall profile. The reason for me asking this is because
> it
> > makes my bisect scripts much easier.
> >
> > * Obs.: as far as I can tell, the PR does not remove the fastinstall
> > profile, so this is more like "just to be sure".
>
> Thanks for the feedback, Otavio! I actually wanted to remove the
> fastinstall profile altogether but now I see there are some leftovers.
> You mean you want to keep the fastinstall profile as it was with all
> those skip properties? I am open to that, but still, I wonder whether
> defining fastinstall in your settings.xml would not be a good enough
> solution too?
>
> -- P
>
> > Great work, Peter ... I'm hoping to see these changes merged.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 1:00 AM Peter Palaga <ppal...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> In PR https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/10476 I tried to make some
> >> changes to improve ergonomics and reproducibility.
> >>
> >> The first idea is to auto-fix formatting issues instead of outputting
> >> error messages. I.e. rather than using Checkstyle plugin that is not
> >> able to fix even basic violations of its policies, maven-license-plugin,
> >> maven-formatter-plugin and maven-impsort-plugin are enabled by default
> >> to format the sources in the desired way without contributors having to
> >> configure their IDEs or anything else manually. There are some more
> >> details in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-19461
> >>
> >> My second goal was to make the fast build (done from a state that passed
> >> the CI) as fast as possible by removing the unessential Maven mojos from
> >> the Maven execution plan altogether. We use this since longer in Camel
> >> Quarkus and it is explained in detail in this blog:
> >> https://peter.palaga.org/2020/10/29/skipping-maven-mojos-properly.html
> >> The new mechanism is slightly different from how our original
> >> `fastinstall` profile worked. `fastinstall` was disabling mojos by
> >> defining their skip properties and it was activated simply by passing
> >> `-Pfastinstall`. The new fast build does something different: it
> >> disables the default `full` profile by passing a property. Because the
> >> invocation had to change from -P to -D I dared to use the same property
> >> name as we use in Camel Quarkus: `-Dquickly` I hope that's fine for
> >> everybody. See also https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-19466
> >>
> >> On my machine with 32 virtual threads, invoking `mvnd clean install
> >> -Dquickly` takes
> >>
> >> * 1st build: 1m 21s
> >> * 2nd build: 1m 10s
> >>
> >> The subsequent builds are slower. I have not investigated why, it is
> >> perhaps because of garbage collection or some plugin might be leaking
> >> memory.
> >>
> >> The third thing is not having the Apache Snapshots Maven repository
> >> enabled by default for the sake of reproducibility locally and on CI.
> >> It is still present in the `apache-snapshots` profile.
> >> There are more details in
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-19465
> >>
> >> Any feedback is welcome.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> -- Peter
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

-- 
Otavio R. Piske
http://orpiske.net

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