Thanks for the feedback, Alex and Babak!

I have found a way how -Pfastinstall could be handled as an alias of -Dquickly: https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/10483
Hope that solution is good enough to meet your needs?

Thanks again,

-- Peter

On 23/06/2023 14:48, Babak Vahdat wrote:


On 23 Jun 2023, at 14:27, Alexandre Gallice <aldettin...@gmail.com> wrote:

Beyond bisect scripts, other developers could be impacted... it's a bit
like deprecating a profile.
For the sake of smooth transition, I wonder if it would be possible to have
something like the fastinstall profile setting -Dquickly and printing a
message that fastinstall might be possibly removed in the future.

Alex

Hi

Yeah as that Maven profile has been exposed to the users as well since ages, so 
removing it (and asking them to adjust their settings.xml to achieve the same) 
doesn’t sound much “Newcomer friendly”:

https://camel.apache.org/manual/building.html#_a_quick_build_without_running_tests 
<https://camel.apache.org/manual/building.html#_a_quick_build_without_running_tests>

And thanks Peter a lot for his awesome work on his PR!

--
Babak


On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 11:47 AM Otavio Rodolfo Piske <angusyo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

So, the primary reason I'd like to keep the fastinstall profile is because
I bisect Camel often to find which commit introduced a certain bug, test
failure or behavior. If we remove this profile, then I would have to adjust
my bisect script so that in newer versions it uses "mvn -Dquickly" and in
versions before this patch it would use "mvn -Pfastinstall" ... and I would
have to, somehow, detect from when to start using one or the other (I think
it would be difficult).

I haven't thought about adding the profile to my user's settings.xml file,
but maybe that would do the trick ... I'll give it a try.

Regardless of that, the lack of fastinstall profile is not a blocker from
my end. I think this is a good improvement.

Kind regards

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 11:30 AM Peter Palaga <ppal...@redhat.com> wrote:

On 23/06/2023 09:38, Otavio Rodolfo Piske wrote:
+1 from me.

All in all I think this is a good thing. Our build takes _way_ too
long,
so
any effort that can reduce this time is welcome. Also, I like that this
would make the build similar to CEQ. Ideally, in the future, we could
also
apply the same pattern to both CSB and CKC, so that we have an uniform
build process across the board.

That said, I have one (hopefully) simple request* in all of this: for
us
to
retain the fastinstall profile. The reason for me asking this is
because
it
makes my bisect scripts much easier.

* Obs.: as far as I can tell, the PR does not remove the fastinstall
profile, so this is more like "just to be sure".

Thanks for the feedback, Otavio! I actually wanted to remove the
fastinstall profile altogether but now I see there are some leftovers.
You mean you want to keep the fastinstall profile as it was with all
those skip properties? I am open to that, but still, I wonder whether
defining fastinstall in your settings.xml would not be a good enough
solution too?

-- P

Great work, Peter ... I'm hoping to see these changes merged.

Kind regards

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 1:00 AM Peter Palaga <ppal...@redhat.com>
wrote:

Hi,

In PR https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/10476 I tried to make some
changes to improve ergonomics and reproducibility.

The first idea is to auto-fix formatting issues instead of outputting
error messages. I.e. rather than using Checkstyle plugin that is not
able to fix even basic violations of its policies,
maven-license-plugin,
maven-formatter-plugin and maven-impsort-plugin are enabled by default
to format the sources in the desired way without contributors having
to
configure their IDEs or anything else manually. There are some more
details in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-19461

My second goal was to make the fast build (done from a state that
passed
the CI) as fast as possible by removing the unessential Maven mojos
from
the Maven execution plan altogether. We use this since longer in Camel
Quarkus and it is explained in detail in this blog:

https://peter.palaga.org/2020/10/29/skipping-maven-mojos-properly.html
The new mechanism is slightly different from how our original
`fastinstall` profile worked. `fastinstall` was disabling mojos by
defining their skip properties and it was activated simply by passing
`-Pfastinstall`. The new fast build does something different: it
disables the default `full` profile by passing a property. Because the
invocation had to change from -P to -D I dared to use the same
property
name as we use in Camel Quarkus: `-Dquickly` I hope that's fine for
everybody. See also https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-19466

On my machine with 32 virtual threads, invoking `mvnd clean install
-Dquickly` takes

* 1st build: 1m 21s
* 2nd build: 1m 10s

The subsequent builds are slower. I have not investigated why, it is
perhaps because of garbage collection or some plugin might be leaking
memory.

The third thing is not having the Apache Snapshots Maven repository
enabled by default for the sake of reproducibility locally and on CI.
It is still present in the `apache-snapshots` profile.
There are more details in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-19465

Any feedback is welcome.

Thanks,

-- Peter






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Otavio R. Piske
http://orpiske.net




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