UPDATE foo SET x = x + 1

is inherently not idempotent.  Thus, client-based idempotence is not in
fact a design goal.

What 2.1 achieves is making commitlog replay idempotent.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Rajath Subramanyam <rajat...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Aleksey,
>
> Thanks for the response. I read through several JIRAs ( CASSANDRA-1072,
> CASSANDRA-2495, CASSANDRA-4775, CASSANDRA-6504, CASSANDRA-6506). I would
> appreciate if you can clarify my understanding of the current state of art.
>
> I understand that the earlier design of having local shards, remote shards
> and logging only deltas for local shards provided good latency but suffered
> inconsistencies due to replays not being idempotent. Was this primarily
> lack of internal idempotent updates (replica-replica) or due to lack
> external idempotent updates (client-coordinator) ? Also, I have an
> additional question about the state of counters before CASSANDRA-6504 (or
> Counters 1.0 if you like). Does the client submit
> CounterUpdate<counter-name, value, timestamp> ? During the retry is the
> same  CounterUpdate<counter-name, value, timestamp> submitted again
> identically as the original attempt ? When the coordinator (if it is one of
> the replica) OR the leader does a write propagation to the other replicas
> does it include the same CounterUpdate<counter-name, value, timestamp> ?
> Essentially, my question is: Can we identify each counter update from a
> client uniquely ? and does the retry use the same unique id ?
>
> Also post the implementation of CASSANDRA-6504 (or Counters 2.0 design) I
> understand that local and remote shards have been replaced by global shards
> and now counters follow a lock-read-write-unlock-replicate model. Does this
> guarantee that retries from clients are still idempotent ? Also, in
> Counters 2.0, is the CounterUpdate sent by the client an unique id ?
>
> I would appreciate your clarification on this.
>
> Thank you !
>
> Regards,
> Rajath
>
>
> ------------------------
> Rajath Subramanyam
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Aleksey Yeschenko <alek...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > No, there are no unique ids per increment. That was one of the ideas
> > suggested in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-4775, but
> > ultimately declined.
> >
> > Read that ticket, and the one linked to it, for details.
> >
> > --
> > AY
> >
> > On October 6, 2014 at 10:20:05 PM, Rajath Subramanyam (
> rajat...@gmail.com)
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Cassandra developers,
> >
> > I am working on a project to make counter updates idempotent. I read that
> > via CASSANDRA-1546 assigns unique marker ids to counter updates in 0.7.1.
> > Does this unique marker id hold true in the later versions too ? Or at
> > least in 0.8.1 ?
> >
> > Please let me know.
> >
> > Thank you !
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rajath
> > ------------------------
> > Rajath Subramanyam
> >
> >
>



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