I would guess there are way fewer people who have already upgraded than people 
who haven't. So better  to fix this as fast as possible and cut a release than 
wait longer and not. At the very least we should pull 3.0.13 so even less 
people can/have upgrade to it.

> On May 31, 2017, at 7:45 AM, Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The number of people isn't zero. Before we commit and cut a new release, we 
> need to be able to explain what that upgrade path is.
> 
> If this is just migration storms then it's not worth cutting a new release - 
> 3.0 was doing that anyway until very recently. If it fails to start that's a 
> much bigger problem, but I don't see why (without testing this myself first) 
> why it would fail to start on the minor version upgrade. Can someone explain 
> why we get unknown cfid just be changing the digest order?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jeff Jirsa
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2017, at 12:34 AM, Stefania Alborghetti 
>> <stefania.alborghe...@datastax.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The patch for 13559 is available if we want to release it in 3.0.14. The
>> tests are still running but I don't expect problems. We need a reviewer
>> however.
>> 
>> Releasing the patch in 3.0.14 will cause problems for people that deployed
>> 3.0.13 and upgrade upwards, but the schema will agree once the rolling
>> upgrade is over. There shouldn't be too many people with 3.0.13 in
>> production however, since upgrading to 3.0.13 is broken in the first place.
>> 
>> Our upgrade tests totally missed this, so they should be checked as to why
>> this is the case.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 12:34 PM, kurt greaves <k...@instaclustr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 31 May 2017 at 03:41, Jeremiah D Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If 3.0.13 causes schema mismatch on upgrade, then maybe we should pull
>>>> that and release 3.0.14 once 13559 is fixed.  As that is a pretty bad
>>> place
>>>> to get into.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> i think that would be a good idea
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
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>> 
>> STEFANIA ALBORGHETTI
>> 
>> Software engineer | +852 6114 9265 | stefania.alborghe...@datastax.com
>> 
>> 
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