You missed the point. If someone can do a good job on something, just let them do it their way when it makes no difference. Specifically regarding the website, I should be able to submit HTML, CSS and JS if I want, others should be able to do it with the static generator thing if they want. I could have fixed the website with complete version specific pages, with some really good text to fill in where there is none now and so on; and done that several different ways by now. I'm donating my time too. Please keep that in mind.
Let me ask again, where are the standards? How can you leave the website for the project you will be associated with looking that substandard? Rahul Singh has been making a very important point that different types of uses with different uses cases use the website. This is a public website; not an internal site for coders. Kenneth Brotman -----Original Message----- From: Josh McKenzie [mailto:jmcken...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:42 AM To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online documentation Wow. Ok, let's try this again. Josh, you made my point for me. Lower the barriers to entry Kenneth, I disagree. The C* community is not expressing universal interest in having a hand-crafted bespoke website, but many have expressed being open to using markdown to create content. Former: high barrier to entry *for the community as a whole, not just you.* Important distinction. If someone like me offers to knock out something that's been a problem for > the group and can do a very professional job, next time get out of the way. It's been a problem because people haven't devoted time to it, not because they couldn't figure out markdown. The Apache Way is about consensus, not telling people to get out of the way when they don't agree with you. I don't make junk Josh. Actions speak louder than words and thus far your tone, combativeness, and repeated unwillingness to acknowledge what looks to be a strong general consensus from your peers is the evidence we have to go on. On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Kenneth Brotman < kenbrot...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > Josh, you made my point for me. Lower the barriers to entry, not throw > extra steps I don’t need at me. If someone like me offers to knock > out something that's been a problem for the group and can do a very > professional job, next time get out of the way. I don't make junk Josh. > Sorry that Apache is not interested in a site with multi-media > support; or even sites with complete pages. Show me one quality open > source Apache site. Wake up. Raise your bar! Engineers shouldn't > speak in the language of mediocrity. > > Kenneth Brotman > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh McKenzie [mailto:jmcken...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:27 AM > To: dev@cassandra.apache.org > Subject: Re: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online > documentation > > > > > I've been writing html a long time; since about 1990. You're asking > > me to learn a weird little program, a static site generator just to > > change something I can already do without using a program at all. > > You're one person among a community of back-end Java devs. If you want > people to contribute to things you need to lower the barriers to > entry, not deep-dive into some bespoke thing that may never see the > light of day and, when completed, misses the mark on what users of cassandra > care about: > clarity and speed. Also: bus-factor 1 is bad. > > Another weird thing: Wouldn't we want a website that is dynamic and > > multi-media rich? > > Personally? No. We're talking function here, not form. As an engineer, > I don't want to wade through someone else's idea of what "dynamic and > multi-media rich" means when I'm trying to find an answer to something > or learn something so I can get on with my job. > > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Nate McCall <zznat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:41 AM, Kenneth Brotman > > <kenbrot...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > > > I don't know what we are doing for the website technologies right > > > now > > because like everything else what we do is not documented anywhere. > > Where are the servers: the cloud? What server software are we > > running? How is the html, etc. generated and published? How is > > search > done for the website? > > > > http://cassandra.apache.org/doc/latest/development/documentation.htm > > l The resulting static HTML from Sphinx is hosted on ASF > > infrastructure. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
