Sure - I'm not disagreeing with you that pre-built packages would be nice
to have.  That said, if someone's gone through the trouble of building an
entire testing infrastructure and has hundreds of machines available,
running `docker-compose up build-deb` is likely not a major issue.  If I'm
trying to decide between solving the 2 problems I'd prefer to make builds
easier as very few people actually know how to do it.  I'm also biased
because I'm working on a tool that does _exactly_ that (build arbitrary C*
debs and deploy them to AWS for perf testing with tlp-stress which we've
already open sourced https://github.com/thelastpickle/tlp-stress).

I'll building it for internal TLP use but there's not much TLP specific
stuff, we'll be open sourcing it as soon as we can.

TL;DR: we need both things

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:12 PM Scott Andreas <sc...@paradoxica.net> wrote:

> Mick – Got it, thanks and sorry to have misunderstood. No fault in your
> writing at all; that was my misreading.
>
> Agreed with you and Kurt; I can’t think of a pressing need or immediate
> use for the Maven artifacts. As you mentioned, all of the examples I’d
> listed require binary artifacts only.
>
> Re: Jon’s question:
> > It seems to me that improving / simplifying the process of building the
> packages might solve this problem better.
>
> Agreed that making builds easy is important, and that manually-applied
> patches were involved in a couple cases I’d cited. My main motivation is
> toward making it easier for developers who’d like to produce
> fully-automated test pipelines to do so using common artifacts, rather than
> each replicating the build/packaging step for tarball artifacts themselves.
>
> Publishing binary artifacts in a common location would enable developers
> to configure testing and benchmarking pipelines to pick up those artifacts
> on a daily basis without intervention. In the case of a build landing DOA
> due to an issue with a commit, it’d be enough for zero-touch automation to
> pick up a new build with the fix the following day and run an extended
> suite across a large number of machines and publish results, for example.
>
>
> On September 19, 2018 at 8:17:05 PM, kurt greaves (k...@instaclustr.com
> <mailto:k...@instaclustr.com>) wrote:
>
> It's pretty much only third party plugins. I need it for the LDAP
> authenticator, and StratIO's lucene plugin will also need it. I know there
> are users out there with their own custom plugins that would benefit from
> it as well (and various other open source projects). It would make it
> easier, however it certainly is feasible for these devs to just build the
> jars themselves (and I've done this so far). If it's going to be easy I
> think there's value in generating and hosting nightly jars, but if it's
> difficult I can just write some docs for DIY.
>
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 12:20, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Sorry about the terrible english in my last email.
> >
> >
> > > On the target audience:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > > For developers building automation around testing and
> > > validation, it’d be great to have a common build to work from rather
> > > than each developer producing these builds themselves.
> >
> >
> > Sure. My question was only in context of maven artefacts.
> > It seems to me all the use-cases you highlight would be for the binary
> > artefacts.
> >
> > If that's the case we don't need to worry about publishing snapshots
> maven
> > artefacts, and can just focus on uploading nightly builds to
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cassandra/
> >
> > Or is there a use-case I'm missing that needs the maven artefacts?
> >
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