Hi Stefan,

Thanks for sending the invite out!

Just wondering what do you think of the idea of having a Zoom meeting that
anyone can join? This way anyone else interested can join us as well. I can
set that up if you like?

Cheers,
Anthony

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 21:24, Stefan Miklosovic <
stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com> wrote:

> Hi Anthony,
>
> sounds good. I ve sent you Hangouts meeting invitation privately.
>
> Regards
>
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 14:53, Anthony Grasso <anthony.gra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> > I have been working with Jon on developing the tool set. I can do a Zoom
> > call tomorrow (Wednesday) at 11am AEST if that works for you? We can go
> > through all the same information that Jon is going to go through in his
> > call. Note that I am in the same timezone as you, so if tomorrow morning
> is
> > no good we can always do the afternoon.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Anthony
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 22:38, Stefan Miklosovic <
> > stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jon,
> > >
> > > I would like be on that call too but I am off on Thursday.
> > >
> > > I am from Australia so 5pm London time is ours 2am next day so your
> > > Wednesday morning is my Thursday night. Wednesday early morning so
> > > your Tuesday morning and London's afternoon would be the best.
> > >
> > > Recording the thing would be definitely helpful too.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 07:45, Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'd be more than happy to hop on a call next week to give you both
> > > > (and anyone else interested) a tour of our dev tools.  Maybe
> something
> > > > early morning on my end, which should be your evening, could work?
> > > >
> > > > I can set up a Zoom conference to get everyone acquainted.  We can
> > > > record and post it for any who can't make it.
> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday morning, 9AM Pacific
> (5pm
> > > > London)?  If anyone's interested please reply with what dates work.
> > > > I'll be sure to post the details back here with the zoom link in case
> > > > anyone wants to join that didn't get a chance to reply, as well as a
> > > > link to the recorded call.
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:41 AM Benedict Elliott Smith
> > > > <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > > I’m also just as excited to see some standardised workloads and
> test
> > > bed.  At the moment we’re benefiting from some large contributors doing
> > > their own proprietary performance testing, which is super valuable and
> > > something we’ve lacked before.  But I’m also keen to see some more
> > > representative workloads that are reproducible by anybody in the
> community
> > > take shape.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 12 Apr 2019, at 18:09, Aleksey Yeshchenko
> > > <alek...@apple.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Jon,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This sounds exciting and pretty useful, thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looking forward to using tlp-stress for validating 15066
> performance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We should touch base some time next week to pick a comprehensive
> set
> > > of workloads and versions, perhaps?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On 12 Apr 2019, at 16:34, Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I don't want to derail the discussion about Stabilizing
> Internode
> > > > > >> Messaging, so I'm starting this as a separate thread.  There
> was a
> > > > > >> comment that Josh made [1] about doing performance testing with
> real
> > > > > >> clusters as well as a lot of microbenchmarks, and I'm 100% in
> > > support
> > > > > >> of this.  We've been working on some tooling at TLP for the last
> > > > > >> several months to make this a lot easier.  One of the goals has
> been
> > > > > >> to help improve the 4.0 testing process.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The first tool we have is tlp-stress [2].  It's designed with a
> "get
> > > > > >> started in 5 minutes" mindset.  My goal was to ship a stress
> tool
> > > that
> > > > > >> ships with real workloads out of the box that can be easily
> tweaked,
> > > > > >> similar to how fio allows you to design a disk workload and
> tweak it
> > > > > >> with paramaters.  Included are stress workloads that stress LWTs
> > > (two
> > > > > >> different types), materialized views, counters, time series, and
> > > > > >> key-value workloads.  Each workload can be modified easily to
> change
> > > > > >> compaction strategies, concurrent operations, number of
> partitions.
> > > > > >> We can run workloads for a set number of iterations or a custom
> > > > > >> duration.  We've used this *extensively* at TLP to help our
> > > customers
> > > > > >> and most of our blog posts that discuss performance use it as
> well.
> > > > > >> It exports data to both a CSV format and auto sets up
> prometheus for
> > > > > >> metrics collection / aggregation.  As an example, we were able
> to
> > > > > >> determine that the compression length set on the paxos tables
> > > imposes
> > > > > >> a significant overhead when using the Locking LWT workload,
> which
> > > > > >> simulates locking and unlocking of rows.  See CASSANDRA-15080
> for
> > > > > >> details.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> We have documentation [3] on the TLP website.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The second tool we've been working on is tlp-cluster [4].  This
> tool
> > > > > >> is designed to help provision AWS instances for the purposes of
> > > > > >> testing.  To be clear, I don't expect, or want, this tool to be
> used
> > > > > >> for production environments.  It's designed to assist with the
> > > > > >> Cassandra build process by generating deb packages or re-using
> the
> > > > > >> ones that have already been uploaded.  Here's a short list of
> the
> > > > > >> things you'll care about:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 1. Create instances in AWS for Cassandra using any instance
> size and
> > > > > >> number of nodes.  Also create tlp-stress instances and a box for
> > > > > >> monitoring
> > > > > >> 2. Use any available build of Cassandra, with a quick option to
> > > change
> > > > > >> YAML config.  For example: tlp-stress use 3.11.4 -c
> > > > > >> concurrent_writes:256
> > > > > >> 3. Do custom builds just by pointing to a local Cassandra git
> repo.
> > > > > >> They can be used the same way as #2.
> > > > > >> 4. tlp-stress is automatically installed on the stress box.
> > > > > >> 5. Everything's installed with pure bash.  I considered
> something
> > > more
> > > > > >> complex, but since this is for development only, it turns out
> the
> > > > > >> simplest tool possible works well and it means it's easily
> > > > > >> configurable.  Just drop in your own bash script starting with a
> > > > > >> number in a XX_script_name.sh format and it gets run.
> > > > > >> 6. The monitoring box is running Prometheus.  It auto scrapes
> > > > > >> Cassandra using the Instaclustr metrics library.
> > > > > >> 7. Grafana is also installed automatically.  There's a couple
> sample
> > > > > >> graphs there now.  We plan on having better default graphs soon.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> For the moment it installs java 8 only but that should be easily
> > > > > >> fixable to use java 11 to test ZGC (it's on my radar).
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Documentation for tlp-cluster is here [5].
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There's still some things to work out in the tool, and we've
> been
> > > > > >> working hard to smooth out the rough edges.  I still haven't
> > > announced
> > > > > >> anything WRT tlp-cluster on the TLP blog, because I don't think
> it's
> > > > > >> quite ready for public consumption, but I think the folks on
> this
> > > list
> > > > > >> are smart enough to see the value in it even if it has a few
> warts
> > > > > >> still.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I don't consider myself familiar enough with the networking
> patch to
> > > > > >> give it a full review, but I am qualified to build tools to help
> > > test
> > > > > >> it and go through the testing process myself.  From what I can
> tell
> > > > > >> the patch is moving the codebase in a positive direction and I'd
> > > like
> > > > > >> to help build confidence in it so we can get it merged in.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> We'll continue to build out and improve the tooling with the
> goal of
> > > > > >> making it easier for people to jump into the QA side of things.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Jon
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [1]
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/742009c8a77999f4b62062509f087b670275f827d0c1895bf839eece@%3Cdev.cassandra.apache.org%3E
> > > > > >> [2] https://github.com/thelastpickle/tlp-stress
> > > > > >> [3] http://thelastpickle.com/tlp-stress/
> > > > > >> [4] https://github.com/thelastpickle/tlp-cluster
> > > > > >> [5] http://thelastpickle.com/tlp-cluster/
> > > > > >>
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