Hi Stefan and devs, I have set up a zoom link for the TLP tool set intro that will be on in an hours time (17 April 2019 @ 11:00AM AEST): https://zoom.us/j/272648772
This link is open so if anyone else wishes to join they are welcome to do so. I will be covering the same topics Jon is covering in his meeting tomorrow. Regards, Anthony On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 08:29, Anthony Grasso <anthony.gra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Stefan, > > Thanks for sending the invite out! > > Just wondering what do you think of the idea of having a Zoom meeting that > anyone can join? This way anyone else interested can join us as well. I can > set that up if you like? > > Cheers, > Anthony > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 21:24, Stefan Miklosovic < > stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com> wrote: > >> Hi Anthony, >> >> sounds good. I ve sent you Hangouts meeting invitation privately. >> >> Regards >> >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 14:53, Anthony Grasso <anthony.gra...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Stefan, >> > >> > I have been working with Jon on developing the tool set. I can do a Zoom >> > call tomorrow (Wednesday) at 11am AEST if that works for you? We can go >> > through all the same information that Jon is going to go through in his >> > call. Note that I am in the same timezone as you, so if tomorrow >> morning is >> > no good we can always do the afternoon. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Anthony >> > >> > >> > On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 22:38, Stefan Miklosovic < >> > stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Hi Jon, >> > > >> > > I would like be on that call too but I am off on Thursday. >> > > >> > > I am from Australia so 5pm London time is ours 2am next day so your >> > > Wednesday morning is my Thursday night. Wednesday early morning so >> > > your Tuesday morning and London's afternoon would be the best. >> > > >> > > Recording the thing would be definitely helpful too. >> > > >> > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 07:45, Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > I'd be more than happy to hop on a call next week to give you both >> > > > (and anyone else interested) a tour of our dev tools. Maybe >> something >> > > > early morning on my end, which should be your evening, could work? >> > > > >> > > > I can set up a Zoom conference to get everyone acquainted. We can >> > > > record and post it for any who can't make it. >> > > > >> > > > I'm thinking Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday morning, 9AM Pacific >> (5pm >> > > > London)? If anyone's interested please reply with what dates work. >> > > > I'll be sure to post the details back here with the zoom link in >> case >> > > > anyone wants to join that didn't get a chance to reply, as well as a >> > > > link to the recorded call. >> > > > >> > > > Jon >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:41 AM Benedict Elliott Smith >> > > > <bened...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > +1 >> > > > > >> > > > > I’m also just as excited to see some standardised workloads and >> test >> > > bed. At the moment we’re benefiting from some large contributors >> doing >> > > their own proprietary performance testing, which is super valuable and >> > > something we’ve lacked before. But I’m also keen to see some more >> > > representative workloads that are reproducible by anybody in the >> community >> > > take shape. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 12 Apr 2019, at 18:09, Aleksey Yeshchenko >> > > <alek...@apple.com.INVALID> wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Hey Jon, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > This sounds exciting and pretty useful, thanks. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Looking forward to using tlp-stress for validating 15066 >> performance. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > We should touch base some time next week to pick a >> comprehensive set >> > > of workloads and versions, perhaps? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> On 12 Apr 2019, at 16:34, Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> >> wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> I don't want to derail the discussion about Stabilizing >> Internode >> > > > > >> Messaging, so I'm starting this as a separate thread. There >> was a >> > > > > >> comment that Josh made [1] about doing performance testing >> with real >> > > > > >> clusters as well as a lot of microbenchmarks, and I'm 100% in >> > > support >> > > > > >> of this. We've been working on some tooling at TLP for the >> last >> > > > > >> several months to make this a lot easier. One of the goals >> has been >> > > > > >> to help improve the 4.0 testing process. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> The first tool we have is tlp-stress [2]. It's designed with >> a "get >> > > > > >> started in 5 minutes" mindset. My goal was to ship a stress >> tool >> > > that >> > > > > >> ships with real workloads out of the box that can be easily >> tweaked, >> > > > > >> similar to how fio allows you to design a disk workload and >> tweak it >> > > > > >> with paramaters. Included are stress workloads that stress >> LWTs >> > > (two >> > > > > >> different types), materialized views, counters, time series, >> and >> > > > > >> key-value workloads. Each workload can be modified easily to >> change >> > > > > >> compaction strategies, concurrent operations, number of >> partitions. >> > > > > >> We can run workloads for a set number of iterations or a custom >> > > > > >> duration. We've used this *extensively* at TLP to help our >> > > customers >> > > > > >> and most of our blog posts that discuss performance use it as >> well. >> > > > > >> It exports data to both a CSV format and auto sets up >> prometheus for >> > > > > >> metrics collection / aggregation. As an example, we were able >> to >> > > > > >> determine that the compression length set on the paxos tables >> > > imposes >> > > > > >> a significant overhead when using the Locking LWT workload, >> which >> > > > > >> simulates locking and unlocking of rows. See CASSANDRA-15080 >> for >> > > > > >> details. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> We have documentation [3] on the TLP website. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> The second tool we've been working on is tlp-cluster [4]. >> This tool >> > > > > >> is designed to help provision AWS instances for the purposes of >> > > > > >> testing. To be clear, I don't expect, or want, this tool to >> be used >> > > > > >> for production environments. It's designed to assist with the >> > > > > >> Cassandra build process by generating deb packages or re-using >> the >> > > > > >> ones that have already been uploaded. Here's a short list of >> the >> > > > > >> things you'll care about: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> 1. Create instances in AWS for Cassandra using any instance >> size and >> > > > > >> number of nodes. Also create tlp-stress instances and a box >> for >> > > > > >> monitoring >> > > > > >> 2. Use any available build of Cassandra, with a quick option to >> > > change >> > > > > >> YAML config. For example: tlp-stress use 3.11.4 -c >> > > > > >> concurrent_writes:256 >> > > > > >> 3. Do custom builds just by pointing to a local Cassandra git >> repo. >> > > > > >> They can be used the same way as #2. >> > > > > >> 4. tlp-stress is automatically installed on the stress box. >> > > > > >> 5. Everything's installed with pure bash. I considered >> something >> > > more >> > > > > >> complex, but since this is for development only, it turns out >> the >> > > > > >> simplest tool possible works well and it means it's easily >> > > > > >> configurable. Just drop in your own bash script starting with >> a >> > > > > >> number in a XX_script_name.sh format and it gets run. >> > > > > >> 6. The monitoring box is running Prometheus. It auto scrapes >> > > > > >> Cassandra using the Instaclustr metrics library. >> > > > > >> 7. Grafana is also installed automatically. There's a couple >> sample >> > > > > >> graphs there now. We plan on having better default graphs >> soon. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> For the moment it installs java 8 only but that should be >> easily >> > > > > >> fixable to use java 11 to test ZGC (it's on my radar). >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Documentation for tlp-cluster is here [5]. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> There's still some things to work out in the tool, and we've >> been >> > > > > >> working hard to smooth out the rough edges. I still haven't >> > > announced >> > > > > >> anything WRT tlp-cluster on the TLP blog, because I don't >> think it's >> > > > > >> quite ready for public consumption, but I think the folks on >> this >> > > list >> > > > > >> are smart enough to see the value in it even if it has a few >> warts >> > > > > >> still. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> I don't consider myself familiar enough with the networking >> patch to >> > > > > >> give it a full review, but I am qualified to build tools to >> help >> > > test >> > > > > >> it and go through the testing process myself. From what I can >> tell >> > > > > >> the patch is moving the codebase in a positive direction and >> I'd >> > > like >> > > > > >> to help build confidence in it so we can get it merged in. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> We'll continue to build out and improve the tooling with the >> goal of >> > > > > >> making it easier for people to jump into the QA side of things. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Jon >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> [1] >> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/742009c8a77999f4b62062509f087b670275f827d0c1895bf839eece@%3Cdev.cassandra.apache.org%3E >> > > > > >> [2] https://github.com/thelastpickle/tlp-stress >> > > > > >> [3] http://thelastpickle.com/tlp-stress/ >> > > > > >> [4] https://github.com/thelastpickle/tlp-cluster >> > > > > >> [5] http://thelastpickle.com/tlp-cluster/ >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > > >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > >> > > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >> >>