> scope creep.

I think it is unfair to label this scope creep; it would have to be newly 
considered for 4.0 for it to fall under that umbrella.

I don't personally mind if it lands, but this was discussed at length on 
multiple occasions over the past year, and only stalled because of a 
combination of lack of etiquette, and a lack of leadership from e.g. PMC in 
resolving various political questions over the course of events.

I also struggle to see how this would invalidate testing in any significant 
way?  It doesn't modify any existing behaviour.

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From: Joshua McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org>
Sent: 01 April 2020 19:24
To: dev@cassandra.apache.org <dev@cassandra.apache.org>
Subject: Re: server side describe

This looks like a feature that'd potentially invalidate some testing that's
been done and we've been feature frozen for over a year and a half. Also:
scope creep.

My PoV is we hold off. If we get into a cadence of more frequent releases
we'll have it soon enough.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:03 PM <e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Normally I ping the person on the ticket or in Slack to ask him/her for
> status update and whether I can help. Then probably he/she gives me a
> direction.
> If I can’t find the person anymore, I just use my best judgement and
> coordinate with people who might know better than me.
> For now this strategy worked for me personally.
> Hope this helps
> Ekaterina
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 1 Apr 2020, at 14:27, Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > I was looking through our open JIRAs and realized we hadn't merged in
> > server side describe calls yet.  The ticket died off a ways ago, and I
> > pinged Chris about it yesterday.  He's got a lot of his plate and won't
> be
> > able to work on it anytime soon.  I still think we should include this in
> > 4.0.
> >
> > From a technical standpoint, It doesn't say much on the ticket after
> Robert
> > tossed an alternative patch out there.  I don't mind reviewing and
> merging
> > either of them, it sounded like both are pretty close to done and I think
> > from the perspective of updating drivers for 4.0 this will save quite a
> bit
> > of time since driver maintainers won't have to add new CQL generation for
> > the various new options that have recently appeared.
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > * Does anyone have an objection to getting this into 4.0? The patches
> > aren't too huge, I think they're low risk, and also fairly high reward.
> > * I don't have an opinion (yet) on Robert's patch vs Chris's, with regard
> > to which is preferable.
> > * Since soon after Robert put up his PR he hasn't been around, at least
> as
> > far as I've seen.  How have we dealt with abandoned patches before?  If
> > we're going to add this in the patch will need some cleanup.  Is it
> > reasonable to continue someone else's work when they've disappeared?
> >
> > Jon
>
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