Also, +1

On 22/06/2020, 11:23, "Benedict Elliott Smith" <bened...@apache.org> wrote:

    If you read the clauses literally there's no conflict - not all committers 
that +1 the change need to review the work.  It just means that two committers 
have indicated they are comfortable with the patch being merged.  One of the 
+1s could be based on another pre-existing review and trust in both the 
contributor's and reviewer's knowledge of the area; and/or by skimming the 
patch.  Though they should make it clear that they did not review the patch 
when +1ing, so there's no ambiguity.

    Perhaps we should elaborate on the document to avoid this confusion, as 
this has come up multiple times.



    On 22/06/2020, 02:56, "Joshua McKenzie" <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:

        The way I've heard it articulated (and makes sense to me) is that a 2nd
        committer skimming a contribution to make sure everything looks 
reasonable
        should be sufficient. It's a touch more rigor than we do now (1 contrib 
+ 1
        committer) without slowing things down too much. If we can develop a
        healthy relationship with git revert on the project as well, this model
        should further be de-risked.

        Also, on my personal docket is for us to discuss how one becomes a
        committer and charting that course in the near future, so hopefully 
we'll
        see our committer pool expand in diversity and count to make this less 
of a
        burden.

        On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 7:32 PM Joseph Lynch <joe.e.ly...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

        > +1 (nb).
        >
        > Thank you Josh for advocating for these changes!
        >
        > I am curious about how Code Contribution Guideline #2 reading "Code
        > modifications must have been reviewed by at least one other
        > contributor" and Guideline #3 reading "Code modifications require two
        > +1 committer votes (can be author + reviewer)" will work in practice.
        > Specifically, if a contributor submits a ticket reporting a bug with a
        > patch attached and then it is reviewed by a committer and committed
        > that would appear sufficient under Code Contribution Guideline #2 but
        > insufficient under Code Contribution Guideline #3? I'm sorry if this
        > was discussed before I just want to make sure going forward I properly
        > follow the to be adopted guidelines.
        >
        > Thanks again!
        > -Joey
        >
        >
        > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 8:34 AM Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
        > >
        > > +1 binding
        > >
        > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 11:24 AM Jordan West <jorda...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
        > >
        > > > +1 (nb)
        > > >
        > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:13 AM Jonathan Ellis 
<jbel...@gmail.com>
        > wrote:
        > > >
        > > > > +1
        > > > >
        > > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:12 AM Joshua McKenzie <
        > jmcken...@apache.org>
        > > > > wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > > Link to doc:
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > >
        > > >
        > 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Change since previous cancelled vote:
        > > > > > "A simple majority of this electorate becomes the 
low-watermark for
        > > > votes
        > > > > > in favour necessary to pass a motion, with new PMC members 
added
        > to the
        > > > > > calculation."
        > > > > >
        > > > > > This previously read "super majority". We have lowered the low
        > water
        > > > mark
        > > > > > to "simple majority" to balance strong consensus against risk 
of
        > stall
        > > > > due
        > > > > > to low participation.
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > > >    - Vote will run through 6/24/20
        > > > > >    - pmc votes considered binding
        > > > > >    - simple majority of binding participants passes the vote
        > > > > >    - committer and community votes considered advisory
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Lastly, I propose we take the count of pmc votes in this 
thread as
        > our
        > > > > > initial roll call count for electorate numbers and low 
watermark
        > > > > > calculation on subsequent votes.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Thanks again everyone (and specifically Benedict and Jon) for 
the
        > time
        > > > > and
        > > > > > collaboration on this.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > ~Josh
        > > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > --
        > > > > Jonathan Ellis
        > > > > co-founder, http://www.datastax.com
        > > > > @spyced
        > > > >
        > > >
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