Hi everyone,

Joey has helpfully arranged a call for tomorrow at 8am PST / 10am CST / 4pm BST 
to discuss Accord and other things in the community. There are no plans to make 
any kind of project decisions. Everyone is welcome to drop in to discuss Accord 
or whatever else might be on your mind.

https://gather.town/app/2UKSboSjqKXIXliE/ac2021-cass-social


From: bened...@apache.org <bened...@apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 16:22
To: dev@cassandra.apache.org <dev@cassandra.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CEP-15: General Purpose Transactions
No, I would expect to deliver strict serializable interactive transactions 
using Accord. These would simply corroborate that the participating keys had 
not modified their write timestamps during the final transaction. These could 
even be undertaken with still only a single wide area round-trip, using local 
copies of the data to assemble the transaction (though this would marginally 
increase the chance of aborts)

My goal for MVCC is parallelism, not additional isolation levels (though 
snapshot isolation is useful and we’ll probably also want to offer that 
eventually)

From: Henrik Ingo <henrik.i...@datastax.com>
Date: Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 15:15
To: dev@cassandra.apache.org <dev@cassandra.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CEP-15: General Purpose Transactions
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 7:56 AM bened...@apache.org <bened...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Could you explain why you believe this trade-off is necessary? We can
> support full SQL just fine with Accord, and I hope that we eventually do so.
>

I assume this is really referring to interactive transactions = multiple
round trips to the client within a transaction.

You mentioned previously we could later build a more MVCC like transaction
semantic on top of Accord. (Independent reads from a single snapshot,
followed by a commit using Accord.) In this case I think the relevant
discussion is whether Accord is still the optimal building block
performance wise to do so, or whether users would then have lower
consistency level but still pay the performance cost of a stricter
consistency level.

henrik
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