Ok, thanks Stefan I understand the context better now. Looking at the PR.
Some make sense also for serialization reasons but some make no sense to me.


Le ven. 13 oct. 2023 à 14:26, Benjamin Lerer <b.le...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> I’ve been told in the past not to remove public methods in a patch release
>> though.
>>
>
> Then I am curious to get the rationale behind that. If some piece of code
> is not used anymore then simplifying the code is the best thing to do. It
> makes maintenance easier and avoids mistakes.
> Le ven. 13 oct. 2023 à 14:11, Miklosovic, Stefan via dev <
> dev@cassandra.apache.org> a écrit :
>
>> Maybe for better understanding what we talk about, there is the PR which
>> implements the changes suggested here (1)
>>
>> It is clear that @Deprecated is not used exclusively on JMX /
>> Configuration but we use it internally as well. This is a very delicate
>> topic and we need to go, basically, one by one.
>>
>> I get that there might be some kind of a "nervousness" around this as we
>> strive for not breaking it unnecessarily so there might be a lot of
>> exceptions etc and I completely understand that but what I lack is clear
>> visibility into what we plan to do with it (if anything).
>>
>> There is deprecated stuff as old as Cassandra 1.2 / 2.0 (!!!) and it is
>> really questionable if we should not just get rid of that once for all. I
>> am OK with keeping it there if we decide that, but we should provide some
>> additional information like when it was deprecated and why it is necessary
>> to keep it around otherwise the code-base will bloat and bloat ...
>>
>> (1) https://github.com/apache/cassandra/pull/2801/files
>>
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>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 at 13:07, Benjamin Lerer <ble...@apache.org<mailto:
>> ble...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> I was asking because outside of configuration parameters and JMX calls,
>> the approach as far as I remember was to just change things without using
>> an annotation.
>>
>>
>> Yes, it is my understanding that such deprecation is only needed on
>> methods/objects that belong to some API/SPI component of ours that requires
>> compatibility.  This is much more than configuration and JMX, and can be
>> quite subtle in areas.   A failed attempt I started at this is here:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/%28wip%29+Compatibility+Planning
>> <
>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FCASSANDRA%2F%2528wip%2529%2BCompatibility%2BPlanning&data=05%7C01%7CStefan.Miklosovic%40netapp.com%7Cf0af5e7db5e9468faa8c08dbcbe2e9f3%7C4b0911a0929b4715944bc03745165b3a%7C0%7C0%7C638327947670748135%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3363U2ZlI%2FasNF0NTMrdZ%2BogB%2FjigmCGt3zqRrIs99Q%3D&reserved=0
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>> But there will also be internal methods/objects marked as deprecated that
>> relate back to these compatibility concerns, annotated because their
>> connection and removal might not be so obvious when the time comes.
>>
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