If we are going to commit to beta2 before the summit because "putting
a beta w/ SAI in this state into users’ hands at summit would be very,
very bad" I don't see why we need to have a subpar beta1 at all?

Kind Regards,
Brandon

On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 11:16 AM Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
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> On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 18:06, Caleb Rackliffe <calebrackli...@gmail.com> 
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>> Just to update this thread, Mike has identified the root cause of 19011 and 
>> in the process uncovered 2 additional very closely related issues. 
>> (Fantastic job fuzzing there!) Fixes for all three issues are in hand, and 
>> he continues to test.
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>> After some conversation w/ Mick, Alex, and Mike, I feel like cutting a beta1 
>> now is fine as long as we commit to a beta2 before summit that includes 
>> 19011. Putting a beta w/ SAI in this state into users’ hands at summit would 
>> be very, very bad.
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> In case this sounds weird, to clarify:  this is a mitigation action – there's 
> a risk with every release that it does not make it through.  beta1 might not 
> be great for SAI, but getting it out is better than having only alpha1 
> available come Summit.  It might feel odd to have a beta2 right after a 
> beta1, but I don't mind (and would rather) take the time and investment.
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> beta1 would be announced with an appropriate disclaimer.
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