Rohit, Agreed, I know very well how it is to get "stuck" with a certain version and your (and everyone's) need for backports. Your decision re 4.3 seems to make sense, it looks in good (blue?) shape.
4.5 is starting to look very interesting. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> > To: us...@cloudstack.apache.org > Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, 25 November, 2014 13:40:23 > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] LTS Releases > Hi Wido and Lucian, > > There are many ways to get to a stable product including fixing coverity > issues, > unit/integration tests etc. but one of those ways is to simply support > existing > releases with bugfix releases because most CloudStack users just don’t care > about git workflows, or coverity or unit/integration tests, they simply expect > it to work and if it has bugs they expect them to be fixed. > > We don’t have production usage data and feedback from users to conclude that > 4.4.x releases are stable enough. Some of them (include our customers) have > tried to upgrade their test prod. environments from 4.3.x to 4.4.x and have > failed. So we decided to put backporting/testing efforts on 4.3 which we have > confidence that it just works until a stable 4.5.x on which we have a certain > confidence is released. > > Just to put out a note here - many smart and active contributors/users may > know > their way around CloudStack such as Wido/PCExtreme and Lucian, but many > large/serious CloudStack users are slow to change and upgrading every 3-4 > months may not be an option for them. I know quite a few users who are > operating large clouds and are still on ACS 4.2.x. This simply means they are > not going to simply upgrade just because there is a new release with lots of > new features. Therefore the idea of supporting those releases until we have a > confidence of a new stable release. > > Note: This is not to say that 4.4.x is not stable, we’re simply saying we > recommend 4.3.x because we have a confidence of its stability and we encourage > serious CloudStack users to use it. > > The 4.4 branch does not contain many bugfixes which are in 4.3 and on > master/4.5. I anticipate that 4.5.0 should be out in about 2 months time > around > Jan/Feb 2015. With this anticipation and known confidence of 4.3.x in > production at ShapeBlue we decided to support 4.3 branch until a stable 4.5.x > branch is out.