Hey Daan, > On 25-Nov-2014, at 7:26 pm, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That is worrying, Rohit. As the rest of your mail is already a vote of > distrust, this part says we should not release 4.4.2 as it contains > regressions.
Looks like you skimmed my email and missed the following from my previous email: “Note: This is not to say that 4.4.x is not stable, we’re simply saying we recommend 4.3.x because we have a confidence of its stability and we encourage serious CloudStack users to use it.” 4.4.x is probably the greatest ACS feature release ever but I would still recommend conservative users (who consult me) to stick to 4.3.x for production since we know it just works with least amount of pain. The other issue is I know a lot of people who are on ACS 4.3.x still (including ShapeBlue’s customers) want to have bugfix releases and they may not want to migrate to 4.4.x right now since 4.5.x is about 2–3 months away. ACS when consumed by enterprise companies has a typical lifecycle that lasts at least 6 months, that means someone needs to support it, therefore the idea of official LTS releases. > This is a very bad signal to users and the rest of the > community. What you are saying is (you in transitive form), 'we won't > port fixes to 4.4 but only to 4.3 so upgrade to newer 4.3 versions and > not to a 4.4 version. You have the right to do so but I don't like it. In any form I did not say anything about not helping out or not porting things. People who know me, know that I love to help everyone and I’m quite prompt at reply and resolving things. I’ve taken the task to maintain 4.3 and you’re very welcome to go thorough JIRA etc. to backport things that you want for 4.4 since you’re alone the gatekeeper of this branch. I’m going through these bugs that have a different fix version (not 4.3.0 or 4.3.1): https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12329775 Wido suggested that backporting is time consuming so as a challenge I’ve went through 50 issues today, I was able to understand/backport about 25 of them that qualified for 4.3 branch (many of them were trivial, https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=commit;h=f72eb945540e607ff25917922b4084187246f31a), about 10 of them were hard to backport so I’ve asked authors to help out. I think with this speed I alone should be able to go through like 300 issues reported on JIRA in about 10-15 days time and after than about 10-20 days of testing and getting the bugfix release out. Though if we all help out we can get more mileage. It sucks for me personally that I’ve been emailing you privately about cherry-pick and asking you to pick them on 4.4 (also leaving messages on JIRA). I’ll continue to do that :) and meanwhile, you are very welcome to go see the things I picked on 4.3 and pick those applicable on 4.4. Yours friendly and as always, Rohit Yadav Software Architect, ShapeBlue M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> CloudStack Software Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/> CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.