Hey Daan,

> On 25-Nov-2014, at 7:26 pm, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That is worrying, Rohit. As the rest of your mail is already a vote of
> distrust, this part says we should not release 4.4.2 as it contains
> regressions.

Looks like you skimmed my email and missed the following from my previous email:
“Note: This is not to say that 4.4.x is not stable, we’re simply saying we 
recommend 4.3.x because we have a confidence of its stability and we encourage 
serious CloudStack users to use it.”

4.4.x is probably the greatest ACS feature release ever but I would still 
recommend conservative users (who consult me) to stick to 4.3.x for production 
since we know it just works with least amount of pain. The other issue is I 
know a lot of people who are on ACS 4.3.x still (including ShapeBlue’s 
customers) want to have bugfix releases and they may not want to migrate to 
4.4.x right now since 4.5.x is about 2–3 months away.

ACS when consumed by enterprise companies has a typical lifecycle that lasts at 
least 6 months, that means someone needs to support it, therefore the idea of 
official LTS releases.

> This is a very bad signal to users and the rest of the
> community. What you are saying is (you in transitive form), 'we won't
> port fixes to 4.4 but only to 4.3 so upgrade to newer 4.3 versions and
> not to a 4.4 version. You have the right to do so but I don't like it.

In any form I did not say anything about not helping out or not porting things. 
People who know me, know that I love to help everyone and I’m quite prompt at 
reply and resolving things. I’ve taken the task to maintain 4.3 and you’re very 
welcome to go thorough JIRA etc. to backport things that you want for 4.4 since 
you’re alone the gatekeeper of this branch.

I’m going through these bugs that have a different fix version (not 4.3.0 or 
4.3.1): https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12329775

Wido suggested that backporting is time consuming so as a challenge I’ve went 
through 50 issues today, I was able to understand/backport about 25 of them 
that qualified for 4.3 branch (many of them were trivial, 
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=commit;h=f72eb945540e607ff25917922b4084187246f31a),
 about 10 of them were hard to backport so I’ve asked authors to help out. I 
think with this speed I alone should be able to go through like 300 issues 
reported on JIRA in about 10-15 days time and after than about 10-20 days of 
testing and getting the bugfix release out. Though if we all help out we can 
get more mileage.

It sucks for me personally that I’ve been emailing you privately about 
cherry-pick and asking you to pick them on 4.4 (also leaving messages on JIRA). 
I’ll continue to do that :) and meanwhile, you are very welcome to go see the 
things I picked on 4.3 and pick those applicable on 4.4.

Yours friendly and as always,

Rohit Yadav
Software Architect, ShapeBlue
M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab

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