Daan,

I beg to differ. This is very much a product issue. We cannot knowingly release 
with an existing/working functionality broken. Especially if it is one of the 
features that users expect to be there. Remote Access VPN is an example. Right 
now this functionality is broken.

Ram Katru

-----Original Message-----
From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 4:57 PM
To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Revisit Process for creating Blocker bugs

Ram,

This is a marketing issue, not a release issue. making a release or marketing 
it to the general public are two different things.

Daan

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Ramanath Katru <ramanath.ka...@citrix.com> 
wrote:
> While we can say if a bug doesn’t effect "majority" of current users, we can 
> go ahead and release, but we should also look at a product perspective not 
> just release perspective. There are some features that are important for 
> cloudstack as a product and these cannot be broken in a release. If we do not 
> evaluate from a product perspective, then we will be turning potential new 
> users away.
>
> Ram Katru
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 1:54 AM
> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Revisit Process for creating Blocker bugs
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Somesh Naidu 
> <somesh.na...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I would like to add that while the # of users affected is definitely 
>> a major factor when ascertaining severity of an issue, should we not 
>> consider the technical scope and/or use-case of a defect. For 
>> example, let's say there is only one user using basic zone setup with 
>> VMware in the community but the bug/regression has caused a major 
>> failure like "No provisioning of VMs". Would this be considered a release 
>> blocker?
>>
>
> This is exactly the kind of discussion we need to have when such a case comes 
> by. For this as purely hypothetical case I would say, release. We can not 
> have other users abstain from badly needed features because one can not share 
> in the joy. We would have to release a fix for this afterwards.
>
> just a 0.02 in virtual currency
>
>
>
> --
> Daan



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Daan

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