Thanks Marc, we'll need to investigate and test of course, at this stage this 
is just an idea need discussion. We'll move to JDK11 (lts) sometime in future, 
however, I'm not proposing we rush that in the next major release.


Paul, by bundling the JRE in the packages and systemvm.iso - yes we'll need to 
release a CloudStack update (a) but that could be a good thing especially for 
distros which may not get the security update; (b) we won't need to publish a 
new systemvmtemplate as the JRE may be part of the systemvm.iso instead (i.e. 
don't install JRE in systemvmtemplate, but get it via systemvm.iso file; it may 
also make the template 50-200MB lighter in size).


Regards,

Rohit Yadav

Software Architect, ShapeBlue

https://www.shapeblue.com

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From: Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 2:08:18 PM
To: Marc-Aurèle Brothier; dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to jdk11 and use jlink

It sounds like a good idea to get ahead of the curve..
We probably need a 'plan' which we can all get behind and ready the users for.  
especially if it is going to mean dropping some OS support.

one question, if we 'bundle java' and a Java vulnerability is found are we 
likely to have to release a CloudStack update, rather than advise users to 
upgrade their JRE?
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From: Marc-Aurèle Brothier <m...@brothier.org>
Sent: 20 March 2019 17:31
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to jdk11 and use jlink

Hi Rohit,

I think it’s a good move. After some recent testing I found some 
incompatibility between the jdk11 and older version of spring. I don’t have at 
hands the links but you have to upgrade to some specific version to make it 
work.

Marco


paul.an...@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
@shapeblue




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www.shapeblue.com
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> On 20 Mar 2019, at 05:59, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> JDK8 has reached eol wrt public updates from Oracle and JDK11 is the most 
> recent LTS. Should we discuss and plan the next release to move to JDK11, the 
> effort may be as minimal as changing the jdk requirements in maven config 
> files.
>
> Wrt consumption on centos6 (was there was an argument to drop centos6 
> support?) , centos7 and ubuntu 16.04+ with project jigsaw and jdk11's jlink 
> we can ship stripped down jre along with CloudStack artifacts. This would 
> mean we may no longer depend on distribution provided JRE, much like shipping 
> a single uberjar we can bundle stripped jre in it as well, including for 
> usage, kvm agent and systemvm agents. This can be beneficial in project's 
> control wrt security and CloudStack can still run on platforms that don't 
> have openjdk11 packages. The effort here I guess would be to create build 
> assemblies or use a maven plugin to export such a bundle. Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Rohit Yadav
>
>
> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
> @shapeblue
>
>
>

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