All, I think email is the more persistent form of communication and it must continue to be the default communication mechanism for the project dev+user+etc.
For a more real-time/transient communication, IRC or slack are good tools. I don't have any preference on either, as I'm not an active user on either of them. It just happened that someone asked me to join the-asf slack for some other group, and I saw many projects having their channels there and I made a comment about it on our current apachecloudstack community slack which is outside of the-asf group. I've got both of them setup on my desktop slack now, if it's too difficult to migrate everyone from the old slack group to the-asf slack group, let's continue as is; or perhaps add an IRC-gateway between the two. Regards, Rohit Yadav Software Architect, ShapeBlue https://www.shapeblue.com ________________________________ From: Sven Vogel <s.vo...@ewerk.com> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 01:01 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> Cc: Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel Hey Guys, I don’t understand the problem. I don’t like slack too but I don’t like mailing list or neither. I think the first one is closed and slow. For me is an mailing list or irc also not the wisdom final conclusion but hey do we have a better one? No. If IRC is death drop it. If we don’t want slack drop it. leave ONLY the mailing list until there we get an better interactive technology, maybe open source. Cheers __ Sven Vogel Teamlead Platform EWERK RZ GmbH Brühl 24, D-04109 Leipzig P +49 341 42649 - 11 F +49 341 42649 - 18 s.vo...@ewerk.com www.ewerk.com<http://www.ewerk.com> Geschäftsführer: Dr. Erik Wende, Hendrik Schubert, Frank Richter Registergericht: Leipzig HRB 17023 Zertifiziert nach: ISO/IEC 27001:2013 DIN EN ISO 9001:2015 DIN ISO/IEC 20000-1:2011 EWERK-Blog | LinkedIn | Xing | Twitter | Facebook Auskünfte und Angebote per Mail sind freibleibend und unverbindlich. Disclaimer Privacy: Der Inhalt dieser E-Mail (einschließlich etwaiger beigefügter Dateien) ist vertraulich und nur für den Empfänger bestimmt. Sollten Sie nicht der bestimmungsgemäße Empfänger sein, ist Ihnen jegliche Offenlegung, Vervielfältigung, Weitergabe oder Nutzung des Inhalts untersagt. Bitte informieren Sie in diesem Fall unverzüglich den Absender und löschen Sie die E-Mail (einschließlich etwaiger beigefügter Dateien) von Ihrem System. Vielen Dank. The contents of this e-mail (including any attachments) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of its contents is strictly prohibited, and you should please notify the sender immediately and then delete it (including any attachments) from your system. Thank you. > Am 22.08.2019 um 20:28 schrieb Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com>: > > My whole idea is that having one (IRC) marketed on web pages, while using > the other silently (Slack) makes less than zero sense to me. > > And, for me, a tool is a tool, I'm not married to it (some people prefer vi > editor and have religious attachments to it, I just use nano to get the job > done) > >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 19:49 Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote: >> >> I'm heavily against Slack or any other proprietary, closed solutions. >> >> I think it's a step back generally for the Internet at large and even >> more so for an open source project; I can't reconcile the two in my >> heart. >> >> Having said that, I believe the chat is dead not because it's IRC, but >> because people prefer async comms (ie email). It'll be the same for >> Slack. >> >> >> We should be promoting the mailing lists. They are active and the >> archives are open to search engines etc and can further provide helpful >> information to everyone. >> >> I won't -1 the decision, I don't want to be in the way of "progress", >> but it's not a +1 either. I won't be using it. >> >> My 2p >> >> >> --- >> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! >> >>> On 2019-08-22 16:57, Andrija Panic wrote: >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel ( >>> https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there >>> seems >>> to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/, I >>> would >>> like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially" move (i.e. >>> marketing >>> this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack >>> channel >>> on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for good) >>> all >>> others chat channels. >>> >>> i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we >>> currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's >>> pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so >>> the >>> users can be aware of "alive" chat channel >>> >>> Suggestions, opinions ? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Andrija Panić >> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com Amadeus House, Floral Street, London WC2E 9DPUK @shapeblue
