Peter Hunsberger wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:54:12 +0000, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Peter Hunsberger wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:05:21 +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi
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Ralph Goers wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
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I'd like to hear why you think cforms should not be a block.
Because having it as a block makes it really hard to answer the
question: what is cocoon and what does it provide me.
I think it's useful to have a list of things that cocoon comes with and
a form handling framework is something that *must* be part of the core.
Please no. We don't need cForms for our work. Other people may not
need it either.
Having it in a block doesn't somehow remove it from Cocoon. You can
still tell people that Cocoon has built in forms capabilities and you
can make it very easy for people to get them. However, bundling
cFroms into the core makes the opposite much harder.
And this is why, in association with Reinhard, I have started talking
about "core blocks". These blocks will be documented within the core
documentation of Cocoon, not within the blocks themselves. This is
precisely for the reasons Stefano gives - it will give the impression
that it is an integral part of Cocoon, not a bolt-on. However, going a
bit deeper, you'll find that forms is implemented as a block.
I would even go a bit further - once we've got our blocks system fully
in place, we could have two distributions - core and complete. Core just
includes the core and the core blocks, and complete contains them all.
That way, anyone who wants Cocoon, but doesn't want any of these 'core
blocks' can quite easily remove them from their webapp - but they're in
the distribution by default, always.
That's my thoughts on the subject.
+1 Sounds good to me.
I'd almost want three distributions: "minimal" (no blocks at all),
"default" (or core) and "complete". I'm one of those people that when
I install a piece of software almost always ends up selecting the
"custom" installation option so I can pick and choose what I want
instead of using someone else's preconceived notion of what I want...
However, in this case, if it's easy to remove blocks I don't see any
real issue.
I could live with this.
--
Stefano.
