Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
It seem like we all agree about that the Cocoon core need to be simplified, although we have different opinions about how to achieve it. IMO it can be done in steps by refactoring of the trunk.

One of the complications with Cocoon is the environment abstraction: o.a.c.environment.Request, Response, Context etc. They are similar but not identical to the javax.servlet and javax.servlet.http interfaces, which means yet another thing to learn for the user. It also means that it becomes more complicated to use externally developed components, as these typically implement the servlet family of interfaces. Furthermore it leads to a more complicated setup process of Cocoon.

So, do we need this extra layer of abstraction?

Yesterday evening, we had a discussion with some Struts people, and interestingly enough, they wanted to know more about how we abstracted the environment to define an abstraction layer in jakarta commons so that people can develop their webapp modules and deploy them transparently as portlets or servlets by using the proper implementation of the abstraction.

So my opinion about ditching our abstraction is that, as we say in France, it is urgent to wait. Along with the backwards compatibility problems that ditching the abstraction in 2.2 may lead to, we should see if that common abstraction comes to life and then consider using it.

Sylvain

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Sylvain Wallez                        Anyware Technologies
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Apache Software Foundation Member     Research & Technology Director

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