Jean-Baptiste Quenot wrote: > * David Crossley: > > Jean-Baptiste Quenot wrote: > > > > > I would like to know what purpose serves the existing > > > resources in webapp/WEB-INF/entities? I know that one can > > > setup a catalog for resolving entities, but I'm talking about > > > all the stuff: DTDs, schemas, etc. Is it really useful for a > > > mean web application? > > > > The configuration stuff is definitely necessary. > > What stuff to be precise?
The entities/catalog and the entry in cocoon.xconf > > Many of the resources are probably not necessary. For example, > > the document-v*.dtd etc. were needed when we had the Cocoon > > documentation packaged with the webapp and generated by > > Cocoon. That has all been ripped out so probably don't need > > them. > > OK so we can remove them. > > > > In the README, there is a message that I don't understand: > > > > > > ??Please keep these resources in sync with the authoritative > > > stuff at Forrest.?? > > > > The DTDs started life at Cocoon, then Forrest took over the > > maintenance. With the documentation situation that is mentioned > > above, we did need to keep these synchronised. > > So we can remove this comment in the README file? Yes. > > > I'm proposing to add a build option to avoid copying all these > > > often-unnecessary resources. > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > Perhaps better to remove the stuff that we don't need. I would > > suggest to leave the ISO*.pen entity sets which are often needed > > by applications. > > No problem if it is needed by a few applications, but we must > optionally avoid copying them. Why must we? > > The entities/web-app_2_3.dtd might be needed. > > Webapp runs without it, I hope we are not issuing an HTTP request > to Sun's website everytime ;) Did you check? ngrep.sf.net helps ... 'sudo ngrep dtd' > > The entities/catalog-demo/ is needed by some of the core > > samples. > > So we don't have to copy them if exclude.samples has been set? True. That will save 3k. > Anyway, we are able to run our application without this "entities" > directory. So I think we should allow to optionally avoid to copy > those resources. Let's decide what is the best name for this > option, maybe this is already the exclude.documentation option? No they are not related to documentation. The entity resolver is needed whenever a source xml file declares a DTD. http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/concepts/catalog.html Often people do not realise that they need it. They are requesting DTDs on every parse and could speed up their application. I think that it is a core facility that is often needed. Why do you want to be rid of it? There is not really any overhead, is there. -David
