On 08.05.2008 05:39, Lally Singh wrote:

What missing Java sources? They are in
/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.5.0/Home/src.jar
 Hmm, not for me. Directory exists, but no src.jar inside. So where to get
it from?

Came preinstalled on my mac.  Did you install the dev tools?

No dev tools. Are they only available for Leopard? I'm still on Tiger - and would rather switch to Linux than spending money for Leopard ;)

There's no way in hell I'm traversing a tree with a
keyboard.  I have a mouse, a good one, and it does everything I want
faster than any keyboard.

That's probably personal taste. I can do lots of stuff faster with just the keyboard.

Keyboard navigation in Mac OS X is completely inconsistent, especially
with Java programs.
Uh? What is "consistency" besides the usual cut/copy/paste?

 What about Ctrl/Alt/Shift + Left/Right/Up/Down/Page Up/Page Down/Home/End?
I use these key combinations very heavily in Windows - and try to use
similar cominations in Mac OS X, but pretty much every program has its own
combinations. Notebook keyboard with fn seems to complicate it even more.
Especially annoying in Eclipse fn+Left (which should be Home) jumps to first
position in file.

Actually the consistency is what I love the most:
  Emacs keybindings (Ctrl-{A,E,P,N,K,Y, etc}) work *everywhere*, even
the single-line textfields like the search box in web browsers.

But not in Eclipse ;) Anyways, I don't want to get started with letters for cursor navigation.

  Command-left,right,up,down move to the beginning & end of the line
or document.  Same global consistency.

Not in jEdit. Also fn+left jumps to beginning of document - with cursor in Eclipse, without moving cursor (just scrolling) in SeaMonkey.

  Option left-right move between words.  Option up/down goes up/down a
page. Again, consistent.

Not at all in jEdit. Option+up/down moves lines in Eclipse.

Sorry it's not identical to windows, which was copied by linux, but it
*is* better.

Can't agree.

Huh, I didn't realize people still run such older versions of MacOS.

Tiger? Leopard is only out since 1/2 year, so what ... And I'm not willing to pay for it.

Java 6 is the first time apple's drug their feet for any real amt of
time like this.  Java 5 was a few weeks after the general release, but
nothing like this.

Why a completely separated version after all? I can see the point of a native look&feel, but beyond that ...

Joerg

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