On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org> wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Raman Gupta <rocketra...@fastmail.fm> wrote: >>> Perhaps I'm missing something, but what exactly is wrong with simply >>> using slf4j? It is an extremely simple, widely used library that >>> provides out of the box hooks for many logging frameworks including >>> log4j and logback, simple to configure (i.e. drop the appropriate jars >>> in and thats it), and works out of the box in an OSGi environment? The >>> only downside appears to be that it is not an Apache project. So what. >> >> The biggest issue I have with SLF4J is figuring out the dependencies >> that I need. I really detest having an API jar and then an >> implementation/bridge jar. I find that too annoying. >> > > In fairness, using a dependency manager with support for transitive > dependencies you should only have to specify the implementation jar. > In the case of slf4j you may have to provide multiple jars (impl + > bridge X n logging frameworks in use throughout your application), > however. Of course, log4j v2 will have to support this paradigm in > some fashion or lose runtime "market share" due to slf4j's ability to > cater to the "lowest common denominator."
Even if I Iived in OSGi-land, I'd want one jar/bundle/file. Slicing and dicing in such a minute way seems like a lot of noise. If I were programming for a light bulb, I might care about how big my jars get, but I do not, so I won't ;) Gary > > Matt > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > -- Thank you, Gary http://garygregory.wordpress.com/ http://garygregory.com/ http://people.apache.org/~ggregory/ http://twitter.com/GaryGregory --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
