Well, with that idea, it got me interested in Meiyo.  So, now I'm
playing around in a DSL branch trying to improve the API.  It seems
too verbose to me at the moment. :)


On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Simone Tripodi
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> Hi James!
> I like the idea, the concept reminds me how TestNG's DataProvider and
> GoogleGuice Providers.
> Looking forward to see it in action!
> Simo
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> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:48 PM, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> 
> wrote:
>> What if we introduce a @Converter annotation and any method that is
>> annotated with this annotation is automatically registered as a
>> converter?  It's similar to what I've done in Metastopheles
>> (http://metastopheles.sourceforge.net/).
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Adrian Crum
>> <adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com> wrote:
>>> Agreed. Please don't mis-interpret my replies - I'm not trying to "own" the
>>> sandbox, I just want everyone to have a chance to play in it.
>>>
>>> The recent interest in Convert is great - I hope its popularity and
>>> usefulness grows. I'm truly looking forward to more people getting involved.
>>>
>>> The current code base started out as a work I authored for the Apache Open
>>> For Business Project (OFBiz). The converter framework was used for OFBiz's
>>> scripting language. My initial work was built out and improved upon by an
>>> excellent team of developers. When the converter framework was fairly
>>> complete, someone suggested that OFBiz "spin off" the converter framework to
>>> a separate library - so I brought it here to Commons.
>>>
>>> The code you see today is currently being used in an enterprise-class open
>>> source ERP application. It is scalable and thread-safe.
>>>
>>> Commons Convert has not been "fed back" to the OFBiz project yet because it
>>> is still in the sandbox. Until a decent sized community grows around it, the
>>> OFBiz community will not be willing to switch over to it. I hope to see that
>>> switch happen someday.
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>> On 11/4/2011 11:33 AM, James Carman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A branch would work just fine for that situation. Also, let's keep in mind
>>>> that this component is in the sandbox
>>>> On Nov 4, 2011 7:28 AM, "Adrian Crum"<adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not so that someone else can commit them, so that others can review them
>>>>> and comment on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/4/2011 11:25 AM, James Carman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If need be, I would just create a branch for my work.  It would be silly
>>>>>> for me to submit patches so that someone else would commit them
>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2011 7:20 AM, "Adrian Crum"<adrian.crum@sandglass-**
>>>>>> software.com<adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   From my perspective, it would be preferable to keep the community
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> involved
>>>>>>> in the design decisions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/4/2011 11:15 AM, James Carman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I don't have to submit a patch. I am a commons committer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2011 5:55 AM, "Adrian Crum"<adrian.crum@sandglass-**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> software.com<adrian.crum@**sandglass-software.com<adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  The source and target classes are used by the Converter.canConvert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> method.
>>>>>>>>> The Converter.canConvert method is used by the Converter factory to
>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>> the correct converter. The reason parameterized types are not used in
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> scenario is so you can create converters that handle entire class
>>>>>>>>> hierarchies. If you can think of a way to replace the Class
>>>>>>>>> references
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> parameters, that would be great. Submit a patch and I will look it
>>>>>>>>> over.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You could submit a patch for your partially-completed ConverterChain
>>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>>> and maybe someone else will complete it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/4/2011 2:19 AM, James Carman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I was taking a look at the [convert] component because I have done
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> some work lately on some handy conversion classes.  I'm struggling
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> understand why you'd need the getSourceClass() and getTargetClass()
>>>>>>>>>> methods if you're using generics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, I've got a class that looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> public class ConverterChain<S,T>     implements Converter<S,T>
>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>   public static<S>     ConverterChain<S,S>     from(Class<S>
>>>>>>>>>>  sourceType);
>>>>>>>>>>   public<N>     ConverterChain<S,N>     append(Converter<T,N>
>>>>>>>>>>  converter);
>>>>>>>>>>   ...
>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to contribute it, but in my library, I don't have all of
>>>>>>>>>> those references to the class objects (source/target).  I might
>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>> it in without the source/target stuff implemented.
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