On 12/19/11 7:48 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 12/18/11 1:12 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: >>> [ ] +1 Accept [graph] as a proper component >>> [ ] +/- 0 uhm... >>> [ ] -1 Don't accept it - and please explain why >>> >>> Open will stay open for 72h and closes on Wed 21th, 8:15 PM CET. >> -1 unless I hear from other ASF committers intending to work on this >> component. >> >> I will happily change this to +1 if any of the people who have voted >> +1 assert they intend to commit or if any other ASF committer >> asserts that intention. >> >> We have too many "one man shows" and walking dead in Commons proper >> now to make more. > One more or less will not hurt. ;-) </kidding> > > Actually [graph] with one active committer (Simone), one interested > committer (James) and 3 (!) active contributors is in a better state > than many other components. > > If the "one man shows" are a problem, then I suggest we clean up the > proper list and move things to dormant
It seems obvious to me that a good first step is to stop making new ones. To clean up the existing list, we need to agree on either a labeling solution, move to the Attic or extending the dormant concept to proper (what was proposed, but did not get to consensus). > instead of blocking an actively > developed component. What exactly is being blocked? > > Who knows - with 3 active contributors chances are good they are > joining the commons team. Great! > > >From my own experience, it is *very* frustrating to contribute on a > sandbox component and if there weren't Torsten who supported me so > much I probably would have given up. That, IMO, is what needs to be fixed. Why not just agree that sandbox contributions and involvement is no different from proper? I went through the same thing myself years ago when [math] was in the sandbox. And there are lots of other examples as well, I am sure. We vote committers in based on contributions and collaboration and when we vote them in it is for all of Commons, not just a single component, so it really should not matter what state the component(s) they are working on are in. Phil > > That being said, I myself have no time to play an active part in it. I > just think we are fixing the commons situation on the wrong place. > > Cheers > Christian > > > >> Phil >>> Many thanks in advance, all the best! >>> -Simo >>> >>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/mlvqiqhqm2nqhofr >>> [2] >>> SANDBOX-334 >>> SANDBOX-336 >>> SANDBOX-338 >>> SANDBOX-332 >>> SANDBOX-333 >>> SANDBOX-335 >>> SANDBOX-337 >>> SANDBOX-344 >>> SANDBOX-345 >>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
