Initially, you guys certainly do the same thing in Git you do now in SVN...

Gary


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:25:43 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>
>> On 7/22/14, 3:05 PM, Gilles wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:01:44 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like other projects are running VOTEs to ensure there is
>>>> consensus for this action and including references to VOTE threads
>>>> in INFRA JIRAs.  Lets do this.  The action I am proposing is that we
>>>> request a new ASF git repo, make the current svn repo read-only
>>>> (adding a README to make it clear) and change github mirroring to
>>>> use the git repo.   Votes, please.  This vote will close in 72
>>>> hours.  Note that this VOTE applies only to [math], i.e.
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/math.
>>>>
>>>> [ ] +1 go for it
>>>> [ ] +0 OK, but...
>>>> [ ] -0  Not happy about this, because...
>>>>
>>>   [X] -1 We should not do this if that means that I have to know how
>>>          to use "git" within the next 72 hours.
>>>
>>> Please clarify the migration planning, including the necessary
>>> transition
>>> for complete newbies (e.g. a summary of how to perform the
>>> equivalent of
>>> such basic tasks as "svn co", "svn add", svn del", "svn commit",
>>> "svn diff").
>>>
>>
>> What timeframe would you suggest?  The idea is those of us - myself
>> among them - with limited git experience will have to learn.  I
>> don't think there is a reasonable way to have both svn and git
>> working, so whatever timeframe we choose, we need to decide to JFDI
>> at some point.   Whenever we decide we are ready to fire the INFRA
>> JIRA, the new git repo will get set up and the existing svn repo
>> will become RO.  The "migration" is just copying stuff and
>> repointing git mirrors.  There are lots of git tutorials available
>> and I am sure the experienced git users in the [math] community will
>> help others along.  I am certainly counting on that ;)
>>
>> The same thing happened, btw, way back when we migrated from cvs to
>> svn.  And we had about the same level of immediately available
>> expertise on "the new thing."  I am fine delaying if you or anyone
>> else needs more time to learn git.  On the other hand, there is no
>> better way to learn a new tool than to start using it and just like
>> we do with the code itself, I am confident that we can count on our
>> friends to point out and fix the little mistakes we make as we learn.
>>
>
> The post by Benedikt (about "several possible ways to develop with git")
> seems to indicate that there is more to the move than just doing it.
> Because I don't know git yet, I certainly cannot choose what would be my
> preferred way at this point (if that were the next vote).
>
> The timeframe I imagined is that the newbies could get some help _before_
> the official move, in order to set up and try the new tools.
> As I said previously, I certainly do not oppose to using git; but I don't
> think that pushing people into the water before asking whether they can
> swim is the correct way to go.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gilles
>
>
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