Hello!

I feel like I can't help much in the current discussion. But just wanted to 
chime in
and tell that I'm +1 for a [rdf] component in Apache Commons. As a commons 
committer I'd
like to help.

I started watching the GitHub repository and have subscribed to the ongoing 
discussion. I'll 

tryto contribute in some way; maybe testing and with small patches.


My go-to Maven dependency for RDF, Turtle, N3, working with ontologies, 
reasoners, etc, 

is Apache Jena. I think it would be very positive to have a common interface 
that I could
use in my code (mainly crawlers and data munging for Hadoop jobs) and that 
would work 

with different implementations.


Thanks!

Bruno

>________________________________
> From: Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org>
>To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> 
>Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 6:40 AM
>Subject: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF
> 
>
>Hi all,
>
>I just want to let you know, that I've joined the discussion, the github
>commons rdf community is currently having at github [3]. I think it is time
>for the PMC to take action here since it feels like there is a conflict in
>the beginning.
>
>Hello Commons RDF community,
>
>first of all, I'm speaking for myself an not on behalf of the Apache
>Commons PMC.
>
>I'm really confused by this whole situation. This is what happend from my
>POV: the Commons RDF community at one point had the idea of moving to
>Apache Commons (which in my eyes made sense, given that fact the Apache
>Commons is a place to share code between Apache projects). You really began
>pushing things, you even requested a git mirror on behalf of the Apache
>Commons project from Infra, which now is unused [1]!
>Then Commons RDF decided that it didn't what to join Apache Commons
>anymore, which was okay (at least for me).
>
>Later Reto showed up and wanted to try things out in the Apache Commons
>Sandbox. This is perfectly okay for us. Every Apache Committer may start
>new ideas in our sandbox (in fact we lately granted commit access to all of
>our repositories to all ASF committers [2]). However to actually grow out
>of the sandbox and become a proper component, there has to be a community
>around said component. At the moment, I don't see such a community around
>the Apache Commons Sandbox RDF component. But who knows, maybe there will
>be such a community one day? Maybe not. We do not force things. We just let
>people work with the code (inside the sandbox) the way they like. The is no
>threat to this component at all. We don't have an evil plan to destroy
>Commons RDF.
>The differences regarding how to implement the RDF spec is not of our
>business. None of the current Apache Commons team know RDF. Who are we to
>judge which approach is the right one?
>
>I'm copying this message to the Apache Commons mailing list, so that
>everybody is up to date. If you want to respond, please also copy your
>response to the dev ML. If the Common ML is to noisy: we're using prefixes
>on the ML. You just have to define a filter that delete all mail which do
>not start with [RDF].
>
>I hope we can settle this issue once and for all. Right now it feels like
>"Apache Commons are the bad guys" and I don't think we deserve this.
>
>Regards,
>Benedikt
>
>[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8068
>[2] http://markmail.org/message/q5slpso253joca7n
>
>
>[3] https://github.com/commons-rdf/commons-rdf/issues/43
>
>-- 
>http://people.apache.org/~britter/
>http://www.systemoutprintln.de/
>http://twitter.com/BenediktRitter
>http://github.com/britter
>
>
>

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